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Subject: Re: Late inspiration *Objection*

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 03:09:41 01/07/06

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On January 06, 2006 at 20:32:05, Sune Larsson wrote:

>This is from a German computerchess forum. Christoph Fieberg with German rating
>of almost 1800 was playing vs Rybka. 63 min vs 3 min. The game went as usual
>when playing this little fish - in move 7 a pawn was lost - in move 24 the
>exchange - but then something happened...Late inspiration in the form of
>"put your pawns on white squares and build a fortress" descended over Christoph.
>
>After move 39 Rybka showed +4.34 and we have the following position:
>
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Hours ago I read in a thread about someone who wanted to publish an article
about Rybka whose author were IM and whose engine had a huge number of MB while
Fritz were so small. The potential author asked if people could send him games
played by Rybka, who would lead all ranking lists, that could show the strength
of the new program. So far so good. This potential author got games via email
etc.

And now I am totally surprised. What has this writer in mind when he presents
such a beautiful game by Rybka played against a 1800 German player who managed
to build a fortress in a matrially lost position? What is the meaning of such a
presentation?

Not that I were a fan of the almost mass hystery about Rybka. But this goes too
far. Where, please anyone could show me a single piece of evidence, where the
author of Rybka, an IM, had propagated his creation as a completely new and
unbeatable machine that would no longer suffer under the Law of Blindness beyond
a certain barrier or horizon? Where did someone claim such a stupid thing? - The
answer is clear that nowhere such stupid things were claimed.

But still exactly the writer who plans to present the new program for Sweden,
instead of doing his homework and writing a good article, he comes here and
wants to prove that - surprise surprise! - Rybka has certain barriers in his
perception. Nobody else could know this. We were all suspecting that Rybka
suddenly were a veritable GM created by a human IM - and as a proof for its
class we always suspected that the big exe of Rybka indicated and proved GM
strength. Yes, we all believed in that fairy tale! And now the writer of the
informational article about Rybka for Sweden could clarify this hoax for the
first time in history with this game by Fieberg (Elo 1800). - Cool, Butthead
would've said. And Beavis would've answered 'Cool my ass!'

What I want to say is the following. This all is NOT happening by chance. We
dont have here a peaceful community for debating CC as if we were in a seminary
at a university. Nope! We have here lobbyism and pressure groups, we have
propaganda and character assassination -- only for the benefit of some
advantages for certain new creations.

I didnt like the almost mass hybris about the new program Rybka. But I also
found that the whole approach by Vas always was a decent one, a very thoughtful
one and finally a very friendly one - with many answers in a row, where other
programmers hide themselves. So all in all I was attracted by this new entry!

And what can I see? Well something like the above, where something is aimed at
Rybka that no engine on this Earth could ever avoid despite all the propaganda
that was bought from human players. Every engine until now had this blindness
that is much more important than it is for human players. But of course paired
with that blindness we have excellent improvements being made by our
programmers. But this pressure now becomes betrayal if someone suddenly -
surprisingly - begins to talk about fortresses, Rybka couldnt forsee or prevent
or handle. - Nobody in our community, sane enough, ever thought that machine
could actually play a different chess where the term barrier of perception would
no longer matter. To insinuate a surprise regarding Rybka is fraud! Period.
(Fraud understood as a plain propaganda lie.)



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