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Subject: Re: Either ChessBase Will Solve this or I'll break its Neck!! [Complaint

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 03:28:29 01/07/06

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On January 06, 2006 at 23:04:44, David Mitchell wrote:

>On January 06, 2006 at 14:22:01, Henrik Dinesen wrote:
>
>>On January 06, 2006 at 12:38:49, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>
>>>On January 06, 2006 at 10:44:59, David Mitchell wrote:
>>>
>>>>Rolf,
>>>>
>>>>If you can make a few examples of EXACTLY what you want pasted, and how, I could
>>>>code you up a little "super paster", to save your info inside the game, itself.
>>>>Yes, a program.
>>>>
>>>>Be explicit though in your examples, Rolf. I just would need a small few games
>>>>with your notes to be moved, for testing, and full understanding of how you want
>>>>the notes saved, in the game.
>>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>It's a huge problem:
>>>
>>>1) think about the headers in CB. you have name header, tournament name,
>>>tournament sites, sources, commentaries etc. years ago that was different: CB
>>>hadnt different data bases (files) for these parameters or variables bt they had
>>>a fixed header that looked like this: a fixed number in the database for the
>>>game, then the two players whirte and black and then a second line with the
>>>whole tournament, site and seperated by a semikolon the source. The time came
>>>when CB changed their format and also INFORMATOR changed his by just pasting the
>>>number of INF and number of game - like 45/544 - into the notation itself before
>>>the first move as a comment so to speak. At the time they had sort of routine
>>>that this could be pasted. I forgot the details. You know, this is forced by the
>>>new format where a particular tournament has one single name say INTEL or so
>>>with the site Tilburg. Now in my old tournament line I have this: Tilburg 45/544
>>>for a particular single game with these numbers. That means in the end for over
>>>200 games I have the same number of tournaments. Tilburg with that number. This
>>>is what I want to be corrected. As I said it is possible to delete all these
>>>numbers in seconds but then I lose the nice numbers to quote from INF. INF is
>>>the highest possible game commentary available. So that I want to keep the
>>>numbers to be able to make quotations. Well, tongue in cheek, in general. Not
>>>that I absolutely needed it. :)
>>>
>>>2) Now the even worse problem. CB has a nice feature called ripping databases of
>>>games you dont have yet. That goes automatically. Yes, if you have correct naked
>>>tournament names. I with my 200 names have all these seperate pseudo tournament
>>>for a single event and my ripping cant detect if it's a real double because I
>>>assume that CB works with the tournament lines in the first place for a fast
>>>ripping of million bases. - Since you cant know the CB code I see no possibility
>>>how you want to write a routine to clean up the tournament and then past the
>>>content into the first commentary line in the notation. Famous Nunn once had
>>>such features that substituted CB programs in important extents. Suddenly you
>>>could change names and tournaments at once - all on DOS level... Nunn always
>>>wrote that he had done that for himself... Ok, fine, if you can do it for
>>>yourself and then give it to the community in person of Rolf, fine! Thanks! :)
>>>
>>>3) I would say I give 15 € for such a nice tool. - Or just let me be your
>>>manager and I negotiate with CB and we two become millionaires and then could
>>>marry Marilyn Monroe. How's that?
>>
>>
>>My guess here would be, that David would work with the pgn format. When the base
>>is corverted in CB9 the info is kept, also with reverse conversion.
>>Well, just my guess, since that's how I do "things" to bases that I can't do in
>>the DB-programs.
>>
>>Regards
>>Henrik
>
>I'm not as anxious to meet Marilyn Monroe, now that's she's been dead for a
>number of years, as you might think. :) :)
>
>This may sound odd to you, Rolf, but I don't care anything about the CB format,
>nor do I own the program. I just enjoy programming, and playing.
>
>If you can show me what you have in a small sample, and what you want, we can
>proceed.
>
>Henrik's guess is a good one, but I can't be sure of anything until I see the
>sample, and what you want.
>
>Dave


I am a tech lay and I dont know what you mean by sample or such. I described to
the best of my knowledge what is my problem. If that wasnt good enough for you
then no problem. It's not worth further debate. It's almost impossible for me to
debate with someone who doesnt have ChessBase but who thinks that he can solve
exactly my little tech problem with the actual ChessBase. Certainly it's a
rather theoretical problem of mine. I dont like to lose information. But in the
end I would prefer to lose the "numbers" of INF rather than losing the fabulous
INF commntaries. In the end it might look as if I were just a bureaucrat who's
storing chess informations into databases. This is completely wrong. I am no
longer playing for the Wch but I am still a very dangerous opponent for almost
every chessplayer living on this planet. <Hope that everybody is believing me so
far.>

Thanks very much Dave, nice to get such a support,

Rolf



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