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Subject: Re: Kurt I have played almost 200 games, here are the first against rybka

Author: Per Jørgensen

Date: 05:01:00 01/07/06

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On January 07, 2006 at 07:40:38, robert flesher wrote:

>TINCAN, Blitz:30'  0
>
>                              123456789012345678
>1   Hiarcs 10                  0001111½½½½1111½11  12.5/18
>2   Rybka 1.01 Beta 7 32-bit  1110000½½½½0000½00    5.5/18
>
>This setting is much stronger than default at least in my games. Shredder and
>Fruit were both defeated badly, now a great start against Rybka.

Hi Robert!

Thanks for your posting. I find your results very interesting, especially
because Hiarcs 10 hasn't been doing too well in my previous tests. What are the
specific results against Shredder 9 and Fruit 2.2.1? On which Hardware are you
testing and which books are you using?

If you interested in my testwork you can read about it here:

As I described in this Forum on the 21st of December and earlier I'm making a
new Ratinglist based on 15 openingpositions. 10 of these are known from the
CSS-Ranglist (for further information check this website www.computerschach.de),
here are the 5 new openingpositions:

C30 = Kings Gambit (1.e4,e5 2.f4)

E17 = Queenindian (1.d4,Sf6 2.c4,e6 3.Sf3,b6 4.g3,Lb7 5.Lg2,Le7)

B02 = Scandinavian (1.e4,d5 2.exd5)

D35 = Orthodox Queens Gambit (1.d4,d5 2.c4,e6 3.Sc3,Sf6)

A57 = Modern Ben Oni (1.d4,Sf6 2.c4,c5 3.d5)

It's my intention to create an élite Ratinglist of 17 engines so that each
engine has played 480 games (30 x 16) when the list is full. I'm testing on the
following Hardware:

Asus A8V Motherboard, Socket 939, FSB 1.000 MHz
AMD Athlon 64 4000+, 2.4 GHz, 1 MB Level 2 Cache, 90 nm San Diego Core
2 x 512 MB Corsair PC 3200XLPT RAM (CAS Latency 2-2-2-5)

And here are the specific testconditions:

Shredder 9 GUI
Thinkingtime for each engine: 40 moves in 14 minutes repeatedly
Hash Tables for each engine: 128 MB PC 3200 Ram (CAS Latency 2-2-2-5)
8 MB Cache for TB's
TB's: Nalimov - 3 und 4-pieces
Pondern OFF

Since more than 4 weeks the tests are running and the first result were as
follows:

Fritz 9 - Fruit 2.2.1 19-11
Shredder 9 - Fritz 9 18-12
Shredder 9 - Fruit 2.2.1 11½-18½
Toga II 1.1 - Fritz 9 14-16
Toga II 1.1 - Fruit 2.2.1 10-20
Toga II 1.1 - Shredder 9 16-14
Loop List - Fruit 2.2.1 11-19
Loop List - Fritz 9 8½-21½
Loop List - Shredder 9 12½-17½
Loop List - Toga II 1.1 9½-20½
Ktulu 7.5 - Fritz 9 11½-18½
Ktulu 7.5 - Fruit 2.2.1 12-18
Ktulu 7.5 - Shredder 9 11-19
Ktulu 7.5 - Toga II 1.1 12-18
Ktulu 7.5 - Loop List 13½-16½
Spike 1.0a Mainz - Fritz 9 8-22
Spike 1.0a Mainz - Fruit 2.2.1 11½-18½
Spike 1.0a Mainz - Shredder 9 14½-15½
Spike 1.0a Mainz - Toga II 1.1 13-17
Spike 1.0a Mainz - Ktulu 7.5 13½-16½
Spike 1.0a Mainz - Loop List 12½-17½

And here are the newest results:

Hiarcs 10 - Fritz 9 11½-18½
Hiarcs 10 - Fruit 2.2.1 13½-16½
Hiarcs 10 - Shredder 9 11-19
Hiarcs 10 - Toga II 1.1 11½-18½
Hiarcs 10 - Ktulu 7.5 18-12
Hiarcs 10 - Loop List 16-14
Hiarcs 10 - Spike 1.0a Mainz 19½-10½

No doubt at all; I was expecting a much better performance by Hiarcs 10. I
really didn't expect it to conquer the topposition but at least a performance
like Shredder 9 and Toga II 1.1. Ofcourse Hiarcs 10 may improve in the following
tests but quite frankly I doubt it. Here follows the updated ranking:

1. Fritz 9 127½ Points
2. Fruit 2.2.1 121½ P.
3. Shredder 9 114½ P.
4. Toga II 1.1 114 P.
5. Hiarcs 10 101 P.
6. Loop List 89½ P.
7. Ktulu 7.5 88½ P.
8. Spike 1.0a Mainz 83½ P.

The next engine to be tested is Chess Tiger 15.0. Needless to say; as soon as
Rybka 1.2 is available (probably 1st of February) I'll test it and the same goes
for Shredder 10.

As you see Robert my Hiarcs 10 results aren't very fine. That's why I consider
to make a new Hiarcs 10 test with your settings.

Best regards
Per




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