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Subject: Re: No Benefit From Null Move

Author: Alessandro Scotti

Date: 07:00:22 01/07/06

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On January 07, 2006 at 09:26:16, Michael Neish wrote:

>With such a high rate, maybe the benefit is more obvious.  Out of curiosity,
>have you any idea how much more depth null move is giving you?  Is it enough to
>add a whole play, say from 9 to 10?

I run the usual 5 seconds test on a subset of WAC (posted below). Machine is a
700 MHz Athlon.

Kiwi scores 10/13 with null move, and 6/13 without. Null move seems to give 1 or
2 extra plies. Here's a detailed report:

 8/13  vs  7/13
 9/14  vs  7/11
12/36  vs 13/38 (yes, got deeper without NM on this one)
 8/11  vs  8/13
 9/15  vs  7/17
 8/13  vs  7/12
10/16  vs  8/12
12/19  vs  9/13
 8/15  vs  8/15
12/18  vs 10/16
 9/12  vs  8/16
 8/17  vs  8/13
 9/13  vs  8/13

2kr3r/pp1q1ppp/5n2/1Nb5/2Pp1B2/7Q/P4PPP/1R3RK1 w - - bm Nxa7+; id "WAC.071";
r4rk1/1p2ppbp/p2pbnp1/q7/3BPPP1/2N2B2/PPP4P/R2Q1RK1 b - - bm Bxg4; id "WAC.092";
8/k1b5/P4p2/1Pp2p1p/K1P2P1P/8/3B4/8 w - - bm Be3 b6+; id "WAC.100";
4r1k1/p1qr1p2/2pb1Bp1/1p5p/3P1n1R/1B3P2/PP3PK1/2Q4R w - - bm Qxf4; id "WAC.141";
5rk1/2p4p/2p4r/3P4/4p1b1/1Q2NqPp/PP3P1K/R4R2 b - - bm Qg2+; id "WAC.163";
r1q2rk1/p3bppb/3p1n1p/2nPp3/1p2P1P1/6NP/PP2QPB1/R1BNK2R b KQ - bm Nxd5; id
"WAC.180";
1r2k1r1/5p2/b3p3/1p2b1B1/3p3P/3B4/PP2KP2/2R3R1 w - - bm Bf6; id "WAC.183";
r3k3/P5bp/2N1bp2/4p3/2p5/6NP/1PP2PP1/3R2K1 w q - bm Rd8+; id "WAC.221";
2r1r2k/1q3ppp/p2Rp3/2p1P3/6QB/p3P3/bP3PPP/3R2K1 w - - bm Bf6; id "WAC.222";
2b5/1r6/2kBp1p1/p2pP1P1/2pP4/1pP3K1/1R3P2/8 b - - bm Rb4; id "WAC.230";
1r3r1k/3p4/1p1Nn1R1/4Pp1q/pP3P1p/P7/5Q1P/6RK w - - bm Qe2; id "WAC.243";
rn3k1r/pp2bBpp/2p2n2/q5N1/3P4/1P6/P1P3PP/R1BQ1RK1 w - - bm Qg4 Qh5; id
"WAC.287";
3r1rk1/p3qp1p/2bb2p1/2p5/3P4/1P6/PBQN1PPP/2R2RK1 b - - bm Bxg2 Bxh2+; id
"WAC.297";



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