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Subject: Re: Another analyis - Win and Draw!

Author: Eduard Nemeth

Date: 05:55:58 01/09/06

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On January 09, 2006 at 08:38:08, Eduard Nemeth wrote:

>
>>[D]r6k/2PK1p2/7p/8/2R5/8/8/8 w - - 0 62
>>
>>Rybka has completely outplayed Fruit and is probably in a position that most
>>programs (or humans) would give up by now. This is a position that even a 500
>>ELO player would win against Kasparov. Simply Queen the pawn with check and then
>>it is a simple mop up of the pawns and a simple Rook mate. 4.07/13 3.  Well
>>Rybka actually manages to screw this up and manages only a draw !!!
>>
>>.......62.Ra4?? WHAT IN THE WORLD IS THIS ????!!!!????!!!????? Rybka goes for a
>>Queen and Rook with 2 pawns ending instead a simple Rook win. Although this
>>might be a win for white I could not get any engine to find a win. It might be >a draw even with best play by white.
>
>Ok, then is Shredder 7.04 very bad, and Rybka at last great! :-)
>
>See this analyses on my slow P3 600 with 64 MB hash (without EGTBs)!!
>
>r6k/2PK1p2/7p/8/2R5/8/8/8 w - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Shredder 7.04:
>
>1.c8T+ Txc8 2.Txc8+ Kg7 3.Ke7 h5 4.Tc6 f5 5.Tf6 h4 6.Txf5 Kh6 7.Ke6 h3 8.Tf2 Kh5
>  +-  (4.79)   Tiefe: 13/22   00:00:05  458kN
>1.c8T+ Txc8 2.Txc8+ Kg7 3.Tc6 h5 4.Ke7 f5 5.Ke6 Kg6 6.Ke5+ Kg5 7.Tc1 h4 8.Tg1+
>Kh5 9.Kxf5 h3
>  +-  (4.98)   Tiefe: 14/26   00:00:08  987kN
>1.Ta4 Tg8 2.Tb4 Ta8 3.Tb8+ Kg7 4.c8D Ta7+ 5.Kc6 h5
>  +-  (4.99)   Tiefe: 14/30   00:00:11  1436kN
>1.Ta4 Txa4 2.c8D+ Kg7 3.Dc3+ Kg8 4.Dc6 Ta7+ 5.Ke8 f6 6.Dg2+ Tg7 7.Dd5+ Kh7
>8.Df5+ Kg8 9.Dxf6 Kh7 10.Df5+ Kh8
>  +-  (5.11)   Tiefe: 14/32   00:00:15  2061kN
>1.Ta4 Txa4 2.c8D+ Kg7 3.Dc3+ Kg8 4.Dc6 Ta7+ 5.Ke8 f6 6.Db6 Tg7 7.Dxf6 Kh7 8.Kf8
>Tb7 9.Df5+ Kh8 10.Df6+ Kh7 11.Df5+ Kh8 12.Df6+ Kh7 13.Df5+
>  +-  (5.27)   Tiefe: 15/36   00:00:21  3006kN
>1.Ta4 Txa4 2.c8D+ Kg7 3.Dc3+ Kg8 4.Dc6 Ta7+ 5.Ke8 f6 6.Dd5+ Kg7 7.Dg2+ Kh7 8.Kf8
>h5 9.De4+ f5 10.De7+ Txe7
>  +-  (5.29)   Tiefe: 16/39   00:00:39  5954kN
>
>(Nemeth, Privat 09.01.2006)
>
>Only Draw.
>
>
>r6k/2PK1p2/7p/8/2R5/8/8/8 w - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Rybka 1.01 Beta 9 32-bit:
>
>1.Ta4 Txa4 2.c8D+ Kg7 3.Dc3+ f6 4.Dg3+ Kh7 5.Ke6 Ta6+ 6.Kd5 f5 7.Ke5 Tg6
>  +-  (4.37)   Tiefe: 15   00:01:29  4119kN
>1.c8D+ Txc8 2.Txc8+ Kg7 3.Ke7 h5 4.Tc1 Kg6 5.Tc6+ Kf5 6.Tc7 h4 7.Kxf7 h3
>  +-  (4.42)   Tiefe: 15   00:01:47  6187kN
>1.c8D+ Txc8 2.Txc8+ Kg7 3.Ke7 h5 4.Tc1 Kg6 5.Tc6+ Kf5 6.Tc7 h4 7.Kxf7 h3
>  +-  (4.42)   Tiefe: 16   00:02:19  7902kN
>1.c8D+ Txc8 2.Txc8+ Kg7 3.Tc6 f6 4.Ke6 Kg6 5.Tc1 Kg5 6.Tg1+ Kf4 7.Th1 f5
>  +-  (4.44)   Tiefe: 17   00:03:16  11903kN
>
>(Nemeth, Privat 09.01.2006)
>
>Surprise! Rybka can win! :-)

Now Rybka 1.01 Preview 2 32-bit!!


r6k/2PK1p2/7p/8/2R5/8/8/8 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Rybka 1.01 Preview 2 32-bit:

1.Ta4 Txa4 2.c8D+ Kg7 3.Dc3+ f6 4.Dg3+ Kh7 5.Dd3+ Kg7 6.Kc7 Ta5 7.Dd7+ Kg6
  +-  (4.37)   Tiefe: 14   00:00:56  2821kN
1.c8D+ Txc8 2.Txc8+ Kg7 3.Ke7 h5 4.Tc2 f5 5.Tg2+ Kh6 6.Ke6 f4 7.Tf2 h4
  +-  (4.42)   Tiefe: 14   00:01:00  3055kN
1.c8D+ Txc8 2.Txc8+ Kg7 3.Ke7 h5 4.Tc2 Kg6 5.Tc6+ Kf5 6.Tc7 h4 7.Kxf7 Kf4
  +-  (4.42)   Tiefe: 15   00:01:11  3679kN
1.c8D+ Txc8 2.Txc8+ Kg7 3.Tc6 f6 4.Ke6 Kg6 5.Tc2 Kg5 6.Tc5+ Kg6 7.Tc1 Kg5
  +-  (4.57)   Tiefe: 16   00:02:02  6377kN

(Nemeth, Privat 09.01.2006)

Oh, Rybka 1.01 Preview 2 32-bit can wins!

Timecontrol:

Shredder will perhaps win in Blitz but draws in a rapid game on my PC.
Rybka will perhaps draws in Blitz but win in a rapid game on my PC.

Where I am wrong?

ED.




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