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Subject: Re: Hiarcs 10 (Aggressive Hypermodern) - Rybka Beta 9 x64 (Neutral)

Author: Barry Culp

Date: 15:15:05 01/09/06

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On January 09, 2006 at 17:22:10, Arnon Yogev wrote:

>So these new TC super settings are not that good after all.. ?
>
>I really wonder why there's such a big difference between what others report and
>your results.
>The x64 factor is surely not the sole reason for such kind of humiliation. The
>gap in the results is simply too big.
>
>On the other hand .. Rybka is simply unstoppable(!).
>
>---
>AY.
>---

I agree Arnon .. I was very much surprised by the results. If I recall
correctly, there was a thread late in 2004 by Ed Schroeder that discussed some
of the quirks of engine v engine matches when using Chessbase GUI. For systems
using just one CPU there may be a small (?) reduction in CPU time for Rybka
since UCI engines are a separate windows process running in the background
as compared to Hiarcs which runs as a native engine in the foreground CB GUI.
This issue should not affect my testing since I am using a dual processor so
each engine has in effect its own processor. By viewing the windows task
manager, I did verify this during the match.

 I would be surprised however, if this possible problem with native CB engines
vs UCI engines on a single CPU system is really that significant.

 Another possible issue is how well a 32 bit CB engine like Hiarcs performs on a
64 bit OS as compared to a 32 bit OS ? Again, I would be surprised if this
explains why Rybka does so well on my tests.

 To be honest, I have only seen some partial results without much supporting
detail of what "others report". Perhaps I need to be enlightened :) . One thing
they might want to check is a "bug" that I have seen in other CB GUI engine v
engine matches where the UCI engine (Rybka) stops moving after book moves. I saw
this happen in a match vs Junior 9 ..Rybka timed out for 4 games in a row
without making any moves other than book. After the 4th loss, it mysteriously
started to play again. Rybka bug ?  CB GUI bug ?

Barry



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