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Subject: Re: what the heck is up with hiarcs. CEGT rating????

Author: Joseph Ciarrochi

Date: 03:10:34 01/10/06

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But hiarcs 10 seems to get fairly killed on the cegt list, as does toga1.1
(http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/cegtrating4040all.html#3).

what do you think are the optimal conditions for toga and hiarcs to defeat
rybka?

(i am so tempted to buy hiarcs now)


January 10, 2006 at 05:58:14, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On January 10, 2006 at 05:26:59, Joseph Ciarrochi wrote:
>
>>I simply do not know what to make of hiarcs. sometimes it seems to get killed by
>>rybka (see post two lines earlier). Sometimes it seems to win.
>>
>>usually, it seems that engines maintain there relative order fairly well across
>>machines, testing conditions, and time controls (excluding very short time
>>controls)
>>
>>hiarcs seems to be quite variable. What the heck is going on????
>>
>>
>>On January 09, 2006 at 19:40:31, robert flesher wrote:
>>
>>>TINCAN, Blitz:30'  0
>>>
>>>
>>>1   Hiarcs 10                 +14/-6/=16 61.11   22.0/36
>>>2   Rybka 1.01 Beta 7 32-bit  +6/-14/=16 38.89   14.0/36
>>>
>>>If anyone wants the latest games tell me.
>
>
>together with toga1.1a hiarcs is one of the few programs that is capable to beat
>rybka.
>
>i would say that rybka, toga and hiarcs play nearly in the same league.
>
>depending on hardware, software, setting (e.g. agg+hyp or other stuff)
>and (also very important!) time control, you get this or that result.
>
>I am a little irritated which style robert is using and which machine
>and which rybka version.
>
>others use other styles, other hardware and other rybka versions.
>so the results are very difficult to relate to each other.
>
>some use big books, mainly that came with the prg's. others use one book for all
>generated with only a few plies. others run from nunn or other test positions.
>
>it seems we can (looking in the different results) say overall that hiarcs is
>one of the rare programs that is capable to really beat rybka.
>this is IMO not that bad since rybka killed all kind of strong engines.



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