Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 12:02:30 01/11/06
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On January 11, 2006 at 13:37:13, Sandro Necchi wrote: >On January 11, 2006 at 13:35:18, Sandro Necchi wrote: > >>On January 11, 2006 at 12:53:02, Peter Skinner wrote: >> >>>On January 11, 2006 at 10:15:12, stuart taylor wrote: >>> >>>>Sandro has been making it absolutely clear, that the minimum aim is to make it >>>>atleast 50 elo above the best, which is Rybka, and Rybka will yet be better. So >>>>Shredder 10 would HAVE to be, without exageration, a clear 150 elo points better >>>>than now, easily. (or, 150-200) >>>>S.Taylor >>> >>>Sandro has also make it absolutely clear that each of the previous versions were >>>a certain elo better than the previous and that just didn't end up being true. >> >>Peter, >> >>sorry but you are VERY superficial AND WRONG with this statement: >> 1. Shredder 8 was stronger than Shreder 7.04 if tested in UCI version which SSDF did not and using a more updated book which was not available with the CB version. Now I was telling 40-50 points stronger than 7.04 UCI as 25 being for the UCI and the updated book. >> >>2. This score was the one that was seen by whom tested the UCI version and >>reported here too. >> >>3. I also mentioned that these were estimated data as I did not have time enough >>to make very many test games...now after some years the difference between 7.04 >>UCI and 8.0 CB is 4 points which added to 25 makes 29 so not so far away from >>what I reported...11 points are not so much as you cannot see them in the >>games... >> >>4. For Shredder 9 I was talking about 30 points as estimation even if I said >>that I did not want to tell this data. Now considering that this engine has been >>the leader for so long and that everybody tested against it it is clear that the >>actual elo is suffering from this. So, since it is 13 points now I think my >>estimation was quite good! >> >>> >>>Now suddenly Shredder is going to be 150 - 200elo stronger than version 9? LOL! >> >>You need to understand that this for us is a must and not advertisement...I did >>not say we have the program already 150 points stronger or 200, but that we are >>working a lot on it to reach that goal... >> >>Do you find anything claimed wrong on this? >> >>> >>>I will bet against that anyday. >> >>You are going to loose all you have one day, so my suggestion is to think more >>before making those statements!:-)) >> >>> >>>If you believe this hype, I have a bridge to sell you. And yes it is the one I >>>have previously sold several times here :) Who says it can't have more than one >>>owner? :) >> >>Pls. take note that we will sell you the bridge connecting Sicily if we reach >>the goal we are working on and you will have to buy it as you esposed yourself >>to the world with this claim!:-) >> >>Seriously speaking everybody can state anything, but if you claim about false >>statements on someone you need to be clear and precise otherwise everybody will >>be laughing at you and this is also not deserved by someone which has devoted so >>much time to this field as only very few people did not only from a time spent >>but also as seriously talking on it. >> >>> >>>Peter >> >>Sandro
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