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Subject: Re: Stuff for debate

Author: Zappa

Date: 12:08:50 01/11/06

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On January 10, 2006 at 07:28:55, Gabor Szots wrote:

>Question: Which one of Fruit, Rybka and Shredder will be strongest at their next
>non-beta release?
>
>My bet is Fruit. Here is why.
>
>Fruit made giant leaps in the past. Why should it fade now?
>Rybka hid in the dark for a long time and emerged as the greatest. But I don't
>think it still has the potential for a great improvement. Somme search tweaks
>and some more endgame knowledge will translate to more than 50 Elos.
>Shredder 9 was only moderately improved compared to Shredder 8 (if my assessment
>based on what I have read is right). And it is old. Without some new
>revolutionary ideas it simply cannot gain too much.
>
>So once again: 1. Fruit, 2. Rybka, 3. Shredder.
>
>What do yoou think?
>
>Gábor

I'm going to go out on a limb here, but I think we will not see a lot of
improvement from chess programs in the near future.  Fruit will probably get 50
elo points from real kingsafety code, but in general my opinion is that computer
chess is in sore need of some new ideas.

So far there have been just two big ideas in computer chess: mobility and
recursive null move pruning.  IMO we have just about exhausted the potential of
those ideas.  So the question is: where do we go from here?

anthony

anthony



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