Author: Stuart Cracraft
Date: 16:37:03 01/12/06
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On January 11, 2006 at 09:51:20, Albert Silver wrote: >On January 11, 2006 at 09:48:14, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On January 11, 2006 at 09:04:03, Albert Silver wrote: >> >>>On January 11, 2006 at 08:56:01, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>I wonder if vasik learned to improve his positional understanding from working >>>>about rybka. >>>> >>>>I think that it is possible that he improved his evaluation because he could >>>>find by testing that increasing some evaluation weights work when he did not >>>>expect them to work. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>Possibly, but I really doubt it. Vasik was an International Master far before >>>Rybka was a strong program. Remember that when first discussing the best style >>>of Rybka (very positional) he felt it was the most correct one to follow, which >>>suggests this follows closely his own view of chess in general. That being the >>>case, I am pretty sure he knows a lot more about positional play than Rybka, >>>even if Rybka can outperform him. >>> >> >>Even an 2700 player can learn from positinal evaluation of Fritz that is weaker >>than rybka. >> >>see http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?477972 >> >>If 2700 players can learn from fritz's evaluation then I am sure that an IM can >>learn from rybka's evaluation that is better than fritz's evaluation. > >Good points, but I still think the teaching and learning is more in him teaching >Rybka than the other way around at the moment. Still, that's another discussion, >and not what you postulated. > > Albert Well - wouldn't the "proof of the pudding" as to whether he improved or not with all this testing be that he play a statistically significant number of rated games against human opponents in competition and see how he does? He certainly doesn't have the time to do it, but it would be an interesting experiment, if only a "thought experiment" for now. My believe is that he would NOT improve because to stay at the top of your form at those levels you mostly have to be in competition. Unless you have been extremely busy before. I do not know. I am not a titled player. Certainly he has more chance at doing better for himself financially with his current lifestyle programming Rybka. Stuart
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