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Subject: Re: original versuses newest rybka. How much improvement? can fruit catch?

Author: Roger D Davis

Date: 15:00:22 01/14/06

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On January 14, 2006 at 17:15:39, Joseph Ciarrochi wrote:

>Hi folks,
>
>I am just wondering how much improvement vasik has managed from the original
>beta and the newest beta (please post anything you have). My initial tests
>against fritz 9 show (4 min 2 sec increment); noomen openings):
>
>rybka beta 10 37  -     22
>rybka beta    35.5 -  23.5
>
>
>(this tourni still going, will post final results soon.)
>
>My guess is vasik has maybe improved rybka by 30 points (please present any data
>you have since this is truley guessing.)
>
>I am not sure that adding endgame knowledge will lead to big improvement. Maybe
>a half point here or there, but i could be wrong. Maybe 20 point boost?
>
>Let's say the February release of rybka gets a total of 50 points improvement.
>This will give it about a 90 point advantage over fruit, based on the CEGT. If
>fabien keeps improving fruit as he has in the past (see
>http://www.fruitchess.com/playing-strength.htm),  then fruit could very well
>catch rybka in the next release.
>
>
>I really like the way Fruit 2.2. plays. It offers you very solid advice and
>seems to understand opening play quite well (will post data on this soon). In
>playing style, it seems very different from rybka and thus forms a nice
>complement to this monster fish.
>
>
>best
>Joseph
>
>ps. did fabien ever offer an explanation about why on earth he called his
>program fruit.


Fruit versus Rybka could turn out to be a one of those classic sports rivalries
(yes, chess programming is a sport), because it pits different kinds of
expertise against each other. Rybka's author is obviously a great programmer and
chess IM, but Fruit's author may be the best chess coder alive.

Maybe they should join forces and collaborate. :)

Roger

PS. I suspect Fabien called his program Fruit because it was yielding something
good, as in "bearing fruit," but who knows.



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