Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 07:19:56 01/15/06
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On January 15, 2006 at 09:41:49, Robert Hollay wrote: >On January 15, 2006 at 08:50:56, Rolf Tueschen wrote: > >> >>Nobody ever could address the following question or problem. >> >>ChessBase programs exist for 20 years and it's all very "developped". Bugs like >>in Rybka never appear. We all know that there are bugs and that not all the bugs >>could be corrected because in a "advanced" or "developped" software it often >>depends on very specific configurations on the PC of the sender. However in >>Rybka there are "beginner" bugs and of course such bugs can be solved in minutes >>in direct feedback. This then gives the users the impression that the makers of >>Rybka are in continual stand-by loops while ChessBase engineers are making >>holidays on Sumatra while the poor users are totally alone in Manhattan. >> >>Nobody could react on this uncomparable situation yet. What the hell did I do? >>Did I complain about the fine support and almost restless engagement of Vasik? >>Am I stupid enough to do this? No, of course I didnt do that. But I read here in > >I don't think Chessbase is too much worried about that. At least I've never >read a single line of shown interest from Chessbase side about postings >here. Many of the members simply feel more sympathy for "newcomer" chess >engines, and they are willing to help in developing them (e.g. like >beta testers). Maybe they see more developing capacity in them. Yes, we've seen how that developped in Ruffian! There we had also the hystery. What you could also consider is this: at the beginning of CCC ChessBase were in the talking group. Then they left. Also in German they dont really give much input into the German forum CSS which is similar to CCC. Perhaps I am a tech lay. But I can say this: to me it seems as if these CB guys are always in a loop with technical progress and the hardware possibilities define the possible changes or improvements. The first version of a program is usually so good and almost without bugs. Important bugs are corrected but minor ones are of no interest. The engineers are already heading to the next "generation". And there they create something new. So this is creative in dependence of tech progress. - All what amateurs do like in Arena. This is the same what is already in CB. Only with the guarantee to belong to technical progress. > >>CCC about GUI bugs in ChessBase as if that were beginners bugs that could as >>easily corrected as some nonsense still in Rybka where wants to play with 9 >>Pawns... All I said: cool down baby. ChessBase is a tower of a higher magnitude >>than Rybka. Rybka can well become a tower herself but attention: to be compared >>with ChessBase dear Vas must hold his support for the next twenty years and he >>must also build up a company with many partners and then a partner makes a fault >>and then people will ask for Vasik and claim that he's the evil of the 21. th >>century and that he's this or that. >> >>Nobody addressed the whole situation on such a level yet. >> >> >>Except me. :)) > >What Vasik should do? Should he say: >"Please don't post so much about Rybka, don't discuss Rybka bugs in CCC, >don't post tournaments results. Leave me alone!" ? >Users are naturally more passive in Chessbase's case. 20 years is 20 years. >People are hungry for fresh meat. :) Nothing wrong with it. All I did, believe me, was just mentioning this context. NOT saying: STOP this or that. VAS DO THIS OR THAT! I never said so. Perhaps it's my English that sounds so imperative. :)
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