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Subject: Re: Fruit, shredder 10, rybka....all at the same level in 3 months.

Author: Torstein Hall

Date: 09:33:30 01/16/06

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On January 16, 2006 at 07:01:01, Vasik Rajlich wrote:

>On January 16, 2006 at 03:58:38, Joseph Ciarrochi wrote:
>
>>I've been testing the heck out of the newest beta version of rybka, and I don't
>>see a big strength improvement (this was not vasik's intention anyway.). It
>>keeps wining the usual 58-60% against fritz 9 in 4 min 2 sec blitz (n = 60 at
>>present). I am still waiting on the results from a no book tournement, but so
>>far i don't see any increment. (maybe i'll see increment with bigger sample
>>size)
>>
>
>Actually, it was my intention. Beta 10 has a new search - if it's not better, I
>will have something to think about.
>
>Anyway, please post here (or email me) your results. I want to understand the
>improvement in Beta 10, and more importantly I want to understand how to
>configure the various settings there so that Rybka 1.2 has the best default
>configuration. Real work on the search has now stopped, aside from a few very
>small refinements and (mainly) the configuration testing.
>
>Also - it goes without saying, but I love it when testers play _huge_ game sets.
>No sample size is too big. :)

I did post a 30 games blitz match here:
http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?479708 Rybka won +13 =11 -6 Looks
pretty convincing to me. All the games are in the post by the way.

Torstein

>
>Vas
>
>>This is not to criticize vasek of course. He can't really be expected to provide
>>big strength improvements, in two months (especially when he has to do extra
>>work to get beta ready for full release). Indeed, Fabien i don't think made huge
>>increases in fruit in only two months.
>>
>>I could be wrong about the amount of improvement of the newest beta. Please post
>>your results (I am motivated to be wrong, as I want rybka to be stronger!!)
>>
>>
>>So......Has rybka's massive success made us overly optimistic about how much
>>engines are going to improve in the next year? I have heard people say rybka
>>will be 100 points stronger in its full release. I am now betting it is no more
>>than 20 or 30 points stronger. This is no reflection of vasek. There is only so
>>much he can do in a couple of months (and I think he is delivering a fantastic
>>product, well worth the price).
>>
>>
>>so if rybka gains 30 points, and shredder and fruit gain about 70, they will all
>>be of about equal strength and fritz will be in fourth place.
>>
>>
>>Please post evidence to prove me wrong (that rybka beta 10d has not gained
>>strength). maybe their are stronger configurations then i am using (default).
>>
>>
>>best
>>Joseph



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