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Subject: Re: ICC match Rybka 32-bit v Quad Shredder 30'/game resumes ...

Author: George Sobala

Date: 12:59:53 01/16/06

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On January 16, 2006 at 15:51:37, Andreas Guettinger wrote:

>On January 16, 2006 at 15:30:15, Ingo Bauer wrote:
>
>>On January 16, 2006 at 15:24:39, Andreas Guettinger wrote:
>>
>>>On January 16, 2006 at 14:27:57, Albert Silver wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 16, 2006 at 14:02:04, George Sobala wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On ICC right now:
>>>>>
>>>>>Rybka 1.01 Beta 10d 32-bit on a (mere) Pentium M 1.6GHz (Fishlet)
>>>>>v
>>>>>Deep Shredder on an Apple Quad 4x2.5GHz (Redshift)
>>>>
>>>>Could you give an idea as to what this might be equivalent to for a WinBox? In
>>>>other words, would this be as fast as Deep Shredder running on an Athlon 4800+X2
>>>>and the like? Faster? Slower?
>>>>
>>>>                                        Albert
>>>>
>>>
>>>By calculation it would be equal to 7.5 Ghz of a Athlon64 or Opteron box (for
>>>Chess), because the 2.5 Ghz PowerPC G5 is 0.75 times as fast as a Athlon64 3400
>>>2.4 Ghz.
>>>I don't know what the Ghz of a Athlon 4800. It would be similar as 1 x 7.5 Ghz,
>>>2x 3.75 or quad 1.9 Ghz for multithreading.
>>
>>I operated Shredder at the IPCCC in Paderborn on a Quad Mac with 2.5 GHz. We
>>calculated that it is as fast as an Quad Opteron at 2.5 GHz (+/- 10%). A single
>>G5 is slower than a single Opteron (for chess!) but the speedup for 4 CPUs seems
>>to be better. The overall result is about equal.
>>
>>Btw: Seeing it that way a quad Mac is one of the cheapest available systems with
>>that much "chess calculating power"!
>>
>>Bye
>>Ingo
>
>Interesting. I only compared the NPS of single process engines and didn't take
>in account the speedup.
>Actually I would have thought the difference would be even bigger if a Intel
>compiler and optimizations would be used for the Athlon/Opteron.
>Maybe the 2 Gb of L2 Cache per CPU (4 Gb total) that is shared for 2 cores each
>makes a difference.
>
>If somebody has a Athlon 4800 X2 with Deep Shredder and a testposition we could
>make a comparision.
>
>regards
>Andy

The Apple Quad is certainly outstanding bang per buck.

Deep Shredder x 4 runs at about 1.5 million nodes per second in midgame,
accelerating up to about 2 million nps as the position simplifies.

How does Shredder do on fast Opterons?

I will turn on move kibitzing for Deep Shredder, and you can compare your
Shredder nps as you watch.



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