Author: Torstein Hall
Date: 15:52:30 01/16/06
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On January 16, 2006 at 12:35:54, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On January 16, 2006 at 12:33:30, Torstein Hall wrote: > >>On January 16, 2006 at 07:01:01, Vasik Rajlich wrote: >> >>>On January 16, 2006 at 03:58:38, Joseph Ciarrochi wrote: >>> >>>>I've been testing the heck out of the newest beta version of rybka, and I don't >>>>see a big strength improvement (this was not vasik's intention anyway.). It >>>>keeps wining the usual 58-60% against fritz 9 in 4 min 2 sec blitz (n = 60 at >>>>present). I am still waiting on the results from a no book tournement, but so >>>>far i don't see any increment. (maybe i'll see increment with bigger sample >>>>size) >>>> >>> >>>Actually, it was my intention. Beta 10 has a new search - if it's not better, I >>>will have something to think about. >>> >>>Anyway, please post here (or email me) your results. I want to understand the >>>improvement in Beta 10, and more importantly I want to understand how to >>>configure the various settings there so that Rybka 1.2 has the best default >>>configuration. Real work on the search has now stopped, aside from a few very >>>small refinements and (mainly) the configuration testing. >>> >>>Also - it goes without saying, but I love it when testers play _huge_ game sets. >>>No sample size is too big. :) >> >>I did post a 30 games blitz match here: >>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?479708 Rybka won +13 =11 -6 Looks >>pretty convincing to me. > >Not to me and not to Vasik... Look, such results dont mean anything AT ALL. You are such a friendly soul! :-) Torstein > > >>All the games are in the post by the way. >> >>Torstein >> >>> >>>Vas >>> >>>>This is not to criticize vasek of course. He can't really be expected to provide >>>>big strength improvements, in two months (especially when he has to do extra >>>>work to get beta ready for full release). Indeed, Fabien i don't think made huge >>>>increases in fruit in only two months. >>>> >>>>I could be wrong about the amount of improvement of the newest beta. Please post >>>>your results (I am motivated to be wrong, as I want rybka to be stronger!!) >>>> >>>> >>>>So......Has rybka's massive success made us overly optimistic about how much >>>>engines are going to improve in the next year? I have heard people say rybka >>>>will be 100 points stronger in its full release. I am now betting it is no more >>>>than 20 or 30 points stronger. This is no reflection of vasek. There is only so >>>>much he can do in a couple of months (and I think he is delivering a fantastic >>>>product, well worth the price). >>>> >>>> >>>>so if rybka gains 30 points, and shredder and fruit gain about 70, they will all >>>>be of about equal strength and fritz will be in fourth place. >>>> >>>> >>>>Please post evidence to prove me wrong (that rybka beta 10d has not gained >>>>strength). maybe their are stronger configurations then i am using (default). >>>> >>>> >>>>best >>>>Joseph
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