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Subject: Re: Toga II 1.1 perhaps the Nr. 2 Engine of the World - ans FREEWARE !!

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 06:42:38 01/18/06

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On January 18, 2006 at 08:03:48, James T. Walker wrote:

>On January 17, 2006 at 14:36:47, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>
>>On January 17, 2006 at 14:29:48, James T. Walker wrote:
>>
>>>On January 17, 2006 at 14:14:45, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>
>>>>SSDF will Toga not test, CSS too.
>>>>
>>>>But other serious testers tests Toga II 1.1 !
>>>>
>>>>Thank You!
>>>>
>>>>Here (Toga at time on place 2!):
>>>>
>>>>http://www.utzingerk.com/rating_list.htm
>>>>
>>>>And here:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/cegtrating4040best.html
>>>>
>>>>Toga II 1.1 all in all very good place on Single processor!
>>>>
>>>>(German: Dual Resultate sollte man löschen da sie das Resultat verfälschen!)
>>>>
>>>>Congrats Thomas Gaksch!
>>>>
>>>>ED.
>>>
>>>Sorry but I don't trust "Ponder off" matches.
>>
>>Toga II 1.1 wins with Ponder = ON too!
>>
>>See here CSS Online Masters:
>>
>>http://f23.parsimony.net/forum50826/messages/140482.htm
>>
>>Gruppe A
>>Platz Name          Verein             Pkte. W.1     1        2        3
>>4        5        6        7        8
>>1     Toga 1.1      HLanghans       7.5   41.00   x       0.5' 0.5 0.5' _   1 _'
>>    0.5' 0.5 0.5' 0.5 1 1'     1 _'
>>2     Hiarcs10      Will./Cariss.85 6.0   35.75  0.5 0.5'  x       0.5 0.5' 0'
>>0.5   1 _'     0.5 1'   0.5' 0.5 0' _
>>3     Deep Fritz8   J.Hartmann      6.0   32.75  0.5 _'   0.5' 0.5  x       0.5'
>>0.5 0.5 0'   1 0.5'   0' _     1 0.5'
>>4     DeepShredder9 ZorChamp        6.0   32.00  0' _     1 0.5'   0.5 0.5'  x
>>    0 0.5'   0.5' _   1 _'     0.5' 1
>>5     Ktulu 7.5     RSerfling       5.5   33.00  0.5 0.5' 0' _     0.5' 1   1'
>>0.5    x       0.5 _'   0 0.5'   0.5' _
>>6     Ruffian2      NWerner C2,8    5.5   31.50  0.5 0.5' 0.5' 0   0' 0.5   0.5
>>_'   0.5' _    x       0.5' 1   1 0'
>>7     Smarthink ß   WSchuele        5.5   29.00  0' 0     0.5 0.5' 1 _'     0' _
>>    1' 0.5   0.5 0'    x       0.5' 1
>>8     Deep Junior 8 K.Richter,      4.0   23.00  0' _     1 _'     0' 0.5   0.5
>>0'   0.5 _'   0' 1     0.5 0'    x
>>
>>
>>
>>>In my opinion you are disabling
>>>an important part of the engine which is used when the author "tunes" the
>>>engine.
>>
>>>Just my opinion though.
>>
>>Luky, that is only Your opinion!  :-)
>>
>>>Also backed up by the data in my database
>>>which shows Toga II is weaker than Fruit.
>>
>>I say stronger as Fruit!
>>
>>OK ?
>
>You can say anything you want to.  That doesn't make it true.  I have hundreds
>of games by both programs and Toga is behind Fruit based on those games.  That
>is not opinion but fact.

There is no contradiction between the results that eduerd see and your results.

It is a fact that you use original books for the programs in your tests.
It is possible that the reason for the difference in the results is that in
other tests toga is using a better book or that the games are from predefined
positions without book.

Uri



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