Author: James T. Walker
Date: 08:02:40 01/18/06
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On January 18, 2006 at 09:42:38, Uri Blass wrote: >On January 18, 2006 at 08:03:48, James T. Walker wrote: > >>On January 17, 2006 at 14:36:47, Eduard Nemeth wrote: >> >>>On January 17, 2006 at 14:29:48, James T. Walker wrote: >>> >>>>On January 17, 2006 at 14:14:45, Eduard Nemeth wrote: >>>> >>>>>SSDF will Toga not test, CSS too. >>>>> >>>>>But other serious testers tests Toga II 1.1 ! >>>>> >>>>>Thank You! >>>>> >>>>>Here (Toga at time on place 2!): >>>>> >>>>>http://www.utzingerk.com/rating_list.htm >>>>> >>>>>And here: >>>>> >>>>>http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/cegtrating4040best.html >>>>> >>>>>Toga II 1.1 all in all very good place on Single processor! >>>>> >>>>>(German: Dual Resultate sollte man löschen da sie das Resultat verfälschen!) >>>>> >>>>>Congrats Thomas Gaksch! >>>>> >>>>>ED. >>>> >>>>Sorry but I don't trust "Ponder off" matches. >>> >>>Toga II 1.1 wins with Ponder = ON too! >>> >>>See here CSS Online Masters: >>> >>>http://f23.parsimony.net/forum50826/messages/140482.htm >>> >>>Gruppe A >>>Platz Name Verein Pkte. W.1 1 2 3 >>>4 5 6 7 8 >>>1 Toga 1.1 HLanghans 7.5 41.00 x 0.5' 0.5 0.5' _ 1 _' >>> 0.5' 0.5 0.5' 0.5 1 1' 1 _' >>>2 Hiarcs10 Will./Cariss.85 6.0 35.75 0.5 0.5' x 0.5 0.5' 0' >>>0.5 1 _' 0.5 1' 0.5' 0.5 0' _ >>>3 Deep Fritz8 J.Hartmann 6.0 32.75 0.5 _' 0.5' 0.5 x 0.5' >>>0.5 0.5 0' 1 0.5' 0' _ 1 0.5' >>>4 DeepShredder9 ZorChamp 6.0 32.00 0' _ 1 0.5' 0.5 0.5' x >>> 0 0.5' 0.5' _ 1 _' 0.5' 1 >>>5 Ktulu 7.5 RSerfling 5.5 33.00 0.5 0.5' 0' _ 0.5' 1 1' >>>0.5 x 0.5 _' 0 0.5' 0.5' _ >>>6 Ruffian2 NWerner C2,8 5.5 31.50 0.5 0.5' 0.5' 0 0' 0.5 0.5 >>>_' 0.5' _ x 0.5' 1 1 0' >>>7 Smarthink ß WSchuele 5.5 29.00 0' 0 0.5 0.5' 1 _' 0' _ >>> 1' 0.5 0.5 0' x 0.5' 1 >>>8 Deep Junior 8 K.Richter, 4.0 23.00 0' _ 1 _' 0' 0.5 0.5 >>>0' 0.5 _' 0' 1 0.5 0' x >>> >>> >>> >>>>In my opinion you are disabling >>>>an important part of the engine which is used when the author "tunes" the >>>>engine. >>> >>>>Just my opinion though. >>> >>>Luky, that is only Your opinion! :-) >>> >>>>Also backed up by the data in my database >>>>which shows Toga II is weaker than Fruit. >>> >>>I say stronger as Fruit! >>> >>>OK ? >> >>You can say anything you want to. That doesn't make it true. I have hundreds >>of games by both programs and Toga is behind Fruit based on those games. That >>is not opinion but fact. > >There is no contradiction between the results that eduerd see and your results. > >It is a fact that you use original books for the programs in your tests. >It is possible that the reason for the difference in the results is that in >other tests toga is using a better book or that the games are from predefined >positions without book. > >Uri I agree 100%. It is my opinion that Fruit is stronger than Toga based on my experience and my test. I don't say it is a certainty. It does point out that different set-ups may produce different results. So the best testing method is to test the program the way you will actually use it. That way you find out which is best for you. Jim
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