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Subject: Re: I remember You: Toga II won THUERINGEN 2005 !!

Author: enrico carrisco

Date: 14:13:49 01/18/06

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On January 18, 2006 at 15:58:31, James T. Walker wrote:

>On January 18, 2006 at 12:21:00, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>
>>On January 18, 2006 at 08:03:48, James T. Walker wrote:
>>
>>>On January 17, 2006 at 14:36:47, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 17, 2006 at 14:29:48, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 17, 2006 at 14:14:45, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>SSDF will Toga not test, CSS too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But other serious testers tests Toga II 1.1 !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thank You!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Here (Toga at time on place 2!):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.utzingerk.com/rating_list.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/cegtrating4040best.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Toga II 1.1 all in all very good place on Single processor!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(German: Dual Resultate sollte man löschen da sie das Resultat verfälschen!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Congrats Thomas Gaksch!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>ED.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sorry but I don't trust "Ponder off" matches.
>>>>
>>>>Toga II 1.1 wins with Ponder = ON too!
>>>>
>>>>See here CSS Online Masters:
>>>>
>>>>http://f23.parsimony.net/forum50826/messages/140482.htm
>>>>
>>>>Gruppe A
>>>>Platz Name          Verein             Pkte. W.1     1        2        3
>>>>4        5        6        7        8
>>>>1     Toga 1.1      HLanghans       7.5   41.00   x       0.5' 0.5 0.5' _   1 _'
>>>>    0.5' 0.5 0.5' 0.5 1 1'     1 _'
>>>>2     Hiarcs10      Will./Cariss.85 6.0   35.75  0.5 0.5'  x       0.5 0.5' 0'
>>>>0.5   1 _'     0.5 1'   0.5' 0.5 0' _
>>>>3     Deep Fritz8   J.Hartmann      6.0   32.75  0.5 _'   0.5' 0.5  x       0.5'
>>>>0.5 0.5 0'   1 0.5'   0' _     1 0.5'
>>>>4     DeepShredder9 ZorChamp        6.0   32.00  0' _     1 0.5'   0.5 0.5'  x
>>>>    0 0.5'   0.5' _   1 _'     0.5' 1
>>>>5     Ktulu 7.5     RSerfling       5.5   33.00  0.5 0.5' 0' _     0.5' 1   1'
>>>>0.5    x       0.5 _'   0 0.5'   0.5' _
>>>>6     Ruffian2      NWerner C2,8    5.5   31.50  0.5 0.5' 0.5' 0   0' 0.5   0.5
>>>>_'   0.5' _    x       0.5' 1   1 0'
>>>>7     Smarthink ß   WSchuele        5.5   29.00  0' 0     0.5 0.5' 1 _'     0' _
>>>>    1' 0.5   0.5 0'    x       0.5' 1
>>>>8     Deep Junior 8 K.Richter,      4.0   23.00  0' _     1 _'     0' 0.5   0.5
>>>>0'   0.5 _'   0' 1     0.5 0'    x
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In my opinion you are disabling
>>>>>an important part of the engine which is used when the author "tunes" the
>>>>>engine.
>>>>
>>>>>Just my opinion though.
>>>>
>>>>Luky, that is only Your opinion!  :-)
>>>>
>>>>>Also backed up by the data in my database
>>>>>which shows Toga II is weaker than Fruit.
>>>>
>>>>I say stronger as Fruit!
>>>>
>>>>OK ?
>>>
>>>You can say anything you want to.
>>
>>YES!
>>
>>But the Tournaments says what is real! I remember THUERINGEN 2005!
>>
>>TOGA won it!
>>
>>
>>>That doesn't make it true.  I have hundreds
>>>of games by both programs and Toga is behind Fruit based on those games.  That
>>>is not opinion but fact.
>>
>>The Fact is that Fruit won not one Tournament, Toga does it!!!
>
>You're being silly.  Tournaments mean very little for estimating relative
>ratings.
>
>
>>
>>>>>Jim

Do not argue with Nemethology -- it is based on feelings, intuitions, astrology
and horoscopes.  It has also been said that monkeys and darts play a role.
Refuting it with a fact-based reasoning system is futile.

-elc.

:) :)




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