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Subject: Re: Example of using chess engine in finding crushing opening novelty...

Author: Gabor Szots

Date: 00:03:50 01/19/06

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On January 18, 2006 at 22:25:16, Rick Hagen wrote:

>After the moves:
>
>[Event "10"/1"]
>[Site "Netherlands"]
>[Date "????.??.??"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "New game"]
>[Black ""]
>[Result "*"]
>[PlyCount "35"]
>
>{512MB, Power2004.ctg, P4 3Ghz XP-Home GUI9} 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4.
>Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 e5 6. Ndb5 d6 7. Bg5 a6 8. Na3 b5 9. Bxf6 gxf6 10. Nd5 f5 11.
>exf5 Bxf5 12. Qf3 Nd4 13. Nc7+ Qxc7 14. Qxa8+ Ke7 15. c3 b4 16. cxb4 Qb6 17.
>Bxa6 Qxb4+ 18. Kf1 *
>
>We reach the following position:
>[D]Q4b1r/4kp1p/B2p4/4pb2/1q1n4/N7/PP3PPP/R4K1R b - - 0 18
>
>I found 23 games in my DB.
>The following moves were played:
>18...Qd2   18x
>18...Qxb2   4x
>18...Kf6    1x
>
>Black scored pretty well with Qd2: 12/18
>Qxb2 scored 50%
>
>The idea of Qd2 instead of Qxb2 seems to be to prevent white exchanging queens..
>
>However, after letting Fritz 9 ponder over this position in multi-PV mode, it
>came up with 18...Bh6!!
>
>Analysis by Fritz 9: (Depth 16, after 10 min.)
>P4@3Ghz
>Hash 512MB
>
>1. -+  (-1.52): 18...Bh6 19.Qxh8 Qxb2 20.Re1 Qxa3 21.Rxe5+ dxe5 22.Qxe5+ Ne6
>23.Qe2 Kf8 24.Kg1 Nf4 25.Qc4 Be6
>2. µ  (-0.73): 18...Qxb2 19.Qb7+ Qxb7 20.Bxb7 d5 21.Rd1 Kd6 22.Ba6 Kc6 23.Nb1
>Bc2 24.Re1 Rg8 25.a4
>3. ³  (-0.30): 18...Qd2 19.h3 Bd3+ 20.Bxd3 Qxd3+ 21.Kg1 Bh6 22.Qb7+ Kf6 23.g3
>Rg8 24.h4 d5 25.Qb6+ Kg7 26.h5 Qf3 27.Rh3
>
>(Hagen, Netherlands 19.01.2006)
>
>So, what do other engines think about 18..Bh6 ?
>
>Regards,
>RH

Analysis by Hiarcs 10:

18...Qxb2 19.Qb7+ Qxb7 20.Bxb7 Bh6 21.h4 Bd3+ 22.Kg1 Rb8 23.Bd5
  ±  (0.75)   Depth: 8/22   00:00:00  85kN
18...Qxb2 19.Qb7+ Qxb7 20.Bxb7 Bh6 21.h4 Bd3+ 22.Kg1 Bf4 23.Rh3 Bf5 24.Rh1
  ±  (0.72)   Depth: 9/26   00:00:01  205kN
18...Bh6
  ±  (0.71)   Depth: 9/26   00:00:02  356kN
18...Bh6
  ²  (0.50)   Depth: 9/26   00:00:02  372kN
18...Bh6 19.Qa7+ Kf6 20.Bc4 d5 21.Qa6+ Kg7 22.Bxd5 Qd2 23.Bc4
  ²  (0.44)   Depth: 9/26   00:00:02  448kN
18...Bh6
  ²  (0.69)   Depth: 10/28   00:00:04  624kN
18...Bh6 19.Qa7+ Kf6 20.Bc4 d5 21.Qa6+ Kg7 22.Bxd5 Qd2 23.Bc4 Rb8 24.Kg1 Rxb2
  ²  (0.69)   Depth: 10/28   00:00:04  660kN
18...Qxb2
  ²  (0.68)   Depth: 10/28   00:00:04  792kN
18...Qxb2 19.Qb7+ Qxb7 20.Bxb7 Bh6 21.h4 Bd3+ 22.Kg1 Bf4 23.g3 Rb8 24.Bd5 Rg8
  ²  (0.64)   Depth: 10/28   00:00:05  860kN
18...Qxb2
  ²  (0.39)   Depth: 11/32   00:00:09  1656kN
18...Qxb2 19.Qb7+ Qxb7 20.Bxb7 d5 21.Rc1 Bd3+ 22.Ke1 Kf6 23.Nb1 Bb4+ 24.Nd2 Rd8
  =  (0.20)   Depth: 11/32   00:00:10  1833kN
18...Bh6
  =  (0.19)   Depth: 11/32   00:00:11  1969kN
18...Bh6 19.Qa7+ Kf6 20.Bc4 d5 21.Qa6+ Kg7 22.Bxd5 Qd2 23.Bc4 Rb8 24.Kg1 Nf3+
25.Kf1
  =  (0.19)   Depth: 11/34   00:00:12  2153kN
18...Bh6
  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 12/34   00:00:18  3074kN
18...Bh6 19.Qa7+ Kf6 20.Bc4 d5 21.Qa6+ Kg7 22.Bxd5 Qd2 23.Bc4 Rc8 24.h4 Rc6
25.Qa4
  ³  (-0.26)   Depth: 12/35   00:00:22  3693kN
18...Bh6 19.Qb7+ Qxb7 20.Bxb7 Bd3+ 21.Ke1 Rb8 22.Rd1 Nc2+ 23.Nxc2 Bxc2 24.Rd2
Bxd2+ 25.Kxd2 Ba4 26.Bd5 Rb5 27.Bc4 Rxb2+ 28.Ke3
  ³  (-0.34)   Depth: 13/38   00:00:37  6136kN
18...Bh6 19.Qb7+ Qxb7 20.Bxb7 Bd3+ 21.Ke1 Rb8 22.Rd1 Nc2+ 23.Nxc2 Bxc2 24.Rd2
Bxd2+ 25.Kxd2 Bf5 26.Bd5 Rxb2+
  ³  (-0.40)   Depth: 14/43   00:01:09  11476kN
18...Bh6 19.Qb7+ Qxb7 20.Bxb7 Bd3+ 21.Ke1 Rb8 22.Rd1 Nc2+ 23.Nxc2 Bxc2 24.Rd2
Bxd2+ 25.Kxd2 Ba4 26.Bd5 Rb5 27.Be4 Rxb2+ 28.Ke3 Rxa2 29.Bxh7
  ³  (-0.41)   Depth: 15/43   00:02:53  28911kN

So HIARCS does not want to capture the h8R. When forced:

19...Qxb2
  µ  (-0.77)   Depth: 10/31   00:00:00  84kN
19...Qxb2 20.Rd1 Qxa3
  µ  (-0.77)   Depth: 10/31   00:00:00  115kN
19...Qxb2 20.Rd1 Qxa3 21.Bc4 Qc3 22.Bd5 Bd3+ 23.Kg1 Ne2+ 24.Kf1 Nf4+ 25.Kg1 Nxd5
26.Qa8 Nf4
  µ  (-0.76)   Depth: 11/31   00:00:02  434kN
19...Qxb2
  µ  (-1.01)   Depth: 12/34   00:00:06  1287kN
19...Qxb2 20.Re1 Qxa3
  µ  (-1.24)   Depth: 12/35   00:00:12  2525kN
19...Qxb2 20.Re1 Qxa3 21.Rxe5+ dxe5 22.Qxe5+ Ne6 23.Qe2 Kf6 24.Kg1 Nf4 25.Qc4
Be6 26.Qd4+ Kg6 27.Bb5 Qxa2
  µ  (-1.07)   Depth: 13/39   00:00:25  5079kN
19...Qxb2 20.Re1 Qxa3 21.Rxe5+ Ne6 22.Bb5 dxe5 23.Qxe5 Qxa2
  µ  (-1.31)   Depth: 14/41   00:01:19  15835kN
19...Qxb2 20.Re1 Qxa3 21.Rxe5+ Ne6 22.Bb5 dxe5 23.Qxe5 Qxa2 24.Qe1 Bd2 25.Qd1
Qd5 26.Qe2 Qd4 27.Qd1
  -+  (-1.45)   Depth: 15/43   00:02:52  35589kN

Gábor



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