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Subject: Re: i am not a paranoid person, really, but what about fritz9 gui?

Author: Thomas Mayer

Date: 14:46:33 01/22/06

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Hi Joseph,

in fact there is a little difference between how chessbase native engines are
handled and uci-engines are handled. But this is not the fault of chessbase,
it's simply windows. You know, usually Windows is set to prefer foreground
application. Natives are part of the GUI, so in fact they are the foreground
application. UCI-engines instead are loaded as a seperated .exe and became
background applications. Therefor when running with ponder=on on a single CPU
system the native will get more CPU time (I believe a lot people have reported
that already). That's why a ponder=on match with chessbase GUI on a single CPU
between a native engine and anything else does not make sense at all. It should
work fine with native against native or e.g. UCI against UCI. But when ponder is
off it should not have any (or very less) influence. On a Dual it might happen
that the thread for the GUI steals a bit CPU power more from the UCI engine then
from the native one (with ponder=on), but again the influence should be very low
(less then 10 Elo I would say).
There might be other things which harm non-native engines, but a) I am very sure
this is by accident and will be solved when discovered and b) I doubt that the
influence is big.
You know, somehow ChessBase isn't too happy with the multi-engine talents of
their GUI -> about less then 1% of the users are interested in it, but it
produces more then 50% of the support questions. There were rumours that they
might stop to support this. (Or only hidden -> they need also a way to test
their engines... :)

Greets, Thomas

P.S.: Vincent has a bit different view about that topic, you might dig around a
bit in the archives, I think at least some of his points seem to be right -
wether they are by accident or not might everybody decide himself.



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