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Subject: Re: Rybka at Karjakin-Anand position

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 01:05:22 01/24/06

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On January 24, 2006 at 02:49:21, Bernhard Bauer wrote:

>Hi everybody,
>incredible rybka found Nc7 in 19:28 min on a AMD XP 1800MHz
>computer with 256 Mb hash. Actually it was rybka v1.0 Beta.w32
>Kind regards
>Bernhard
>
>[D]q3nrk1/4bppp/3p4/r3nPP1/4P2P/NpQ1B3/1P4B1/1K1R3R b
>
>FEN: q3nrk1/4bppp/3p4/r3nPP1/4P2P/NpQ1B3/1P4B1/1K1R3R b - - 0 1
>
>Rybka v1.0 Beta.w32:
>
>   9	00:00	      41.402	58.882	-0,76	Ta5a6 Td1c1 Se5g4 Le3d4 Ta6a4 Th1d1 d6d5
>e4xd5
>  10	00:01	      58.831	61.098	-0,79	Ta5a6 Td1c1 Se5g4 Le3d4 Ta6a4 Th1d1 d6d5
>e4xd5
>  11	00:02	     149.185	54.892	-0,96	Ta5a6 Td1c1 Se5g4 Le3d4 Ta6a4 Th1d1 d6d5
>Dc3c6
>  11	00:05	     297.402	55.827	-0,92	Ta5a4 Td1d4 Ta4a6 Td4b4 Se5g4 Tb4xb3 Ta6c6
>Dc3d2
>  11	00:05	     307.186	55.911	-0,85	Se5g4 Le3d4 Sg4e5 Th1h3 Ta5a4 Th3g3 Kg8h8
>Dc3xb3
>  11	00:07	     403.712	57.131	-0,82	Da8a6 Dc3xb3 Se8c7 f5f6 g7xf6 g5xf6 Le7xf6
>Le3b6 Tf8b8
>  12	00:48	   2.239.062	47.639	-0,94	Da8a6 Th1g1 Da6a8 Td1d4 Ta5a6 Dc3xb3 Se5c6
>Td4d3 Sc6e5
>  12	00:58	   2.714.561	47.623	-0,77	Se5g4 Le3d4 d6d5 f5f6 g7xf6 Lg2h3 h7h5
>g5xh6/ep Sg4xh6 e4xd5
>  13	01:19	   3.704.883	48.115	-0,92	Se5g4 Le3d4 d6d5 f5f6 g7xf6 Lg2h3 h7h5
>g5xh6/ep Sg4xh6 e4xd5
>  14	05:00	  12.611.712	43.043	-0,94	Se5g4 Le3d4 d6d5 e4e5 Le7xa3 b2xa3 Ta5xa3
>Ld4c5 Se8c7 Lc5xf8
>  15	13:55	  34.545.238	42.334	-0,86	Se5g4 Le3d4 d6d5 e4e5 Le7xa3 b2xa3 Ta5xa3
>Ld4c5 Se8c7 Lc5xf8
>  15	19:28	  47.679.993	41.787	+0,06	Se8c7 Dc3xc7 Tf8c8 Dc7xe7 Se5c4 Le3c5
>Ta5xa3 b2xa3 Sc4xa3+ Kb1c1
>  16	24:30	  60.026.277	41.830	+0,22	Se8c7 Dc3xc7 Tf8c8 Dc7xe7 Se5c4 Le3c5
>Ta5xa3 b2xa3 Sc4xa3+ Kb1c1
>  17	45:41	 111.990.002	41.834	+1,97	Se8c7 Dc3xc7 Tf8c8 Dc7xe7 Se5c4 Le3c5
>  18	1:06:12	 168.526.585	43.445	+2,19	Se8c7 Dc3xc7 Tf8c8
>  19	3:30:52	 567.251.386	45.912	+2,94	Se8c7 Dc3xc7
>  20	9:46:46	1.638.219.001	47.648	+3,28	Se8c7 Lg2f1

I wonder if you started it with clear hash and how much hash did you use.
Another possible reason for difference between my analysis and your analysis may
be if you started from a game position because I started from fen.

rybka on my AMD3000(2ghz) 512 mbytes seem to be slower in nodes to solve the
position and it is faster in time only because of faster hardware.

New game
[D]q3nrk1/4bppp/3p4/r3nPP1/4P2P/NpQ1B3/1P4B1/1K1R3R b - - 0 1

Analysis by Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit:

1...Rxa3
  ²  (0.35)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
1...Rxa3
  ²  (0.48)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
1...Rxa3 2.bxa3
  ²  (0.56)   Depth: 5   00:00:00
1...Ra6 2.f6
  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 5   00:00:00
1...Ra6 2.Rd4 Ng4
  ²  (0.50)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  14kN
1...Ra6 2.Rd4 Ng4 3.Qxb3
  ²  (0.47)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  24kN
1...Ra6 2.Rc1 Ng4 3.Qxb3 Nxe3
  ±  (0.83)   Depth: 8   00:00:00  63kN
1...Ng4 2.Bd4 d5 3.exd5 Bxa3
  ²  (0.63)   Depth: 8   00:00:01  109kN
1...Ng4 2.Bd4 d5 3.exd5 Bxa3 4.bxa3 Rxa3 5.Bc5
  ²  (0.63)   Depth: 9   00:00:02  171kN
1...Ng4 2.Bd4 Ne5 3.Rh3 Ra6 4.Qg3 Nc6
  ±  (0.80)   Depth: 10   00:00:06  378kN
1...Ng4 2.Bd4 Ne5 3.Rh3 Ra4 4.Rg3 Kh8 5.Qxb3
  ±  (0.85)   Depth: 11   00:00:16  996kN
1...Qa6 2.Qxb3 Nc7 3.f6 gxf6 4.gxf6 Bxf6 5.Bb6 Rb8
  ±  (0.82)   Depth: 11   00:00:26  1569kN
1...Qa6 2.Rhg1 Qa8 3.Rd4 d5 4.exd5 Nd6 5.Rb4 f6
  ±  (0.72)   Depth: 12   00:00:56  3313kN
1...Qa6 2.Rhg1 Qa8 3.Rd4 d5 4.exd5 Nd6 5.Rb4 f6 6.Bd4
  ±  (0.84)   Depth: 13   00:01:12  4427kN
1...Qa6 2.Rhg1 Qa8 3.Rd4 d5 4.exd5 Nd6 5.Rb4 f6 6.Bd4
  ±  (0.84)   Depth: 14   00:02:20  8702kN
1...Qa6 2.Rd2 Ra4 3.Rd4 Ra5 4.Rb4 Qe2 5.Qd2 Qa6 6.Rxb3
  ±  (0.86)   Depth: 15   00:07:29  26583kN
1...Ng4 2.Bb6 Ra6 3.Bd4 d5 4.Bf1 Ra5 5.f6 Bxa3 6.bxa3
  ±  (0.82)   Depth: 15   00:11:16  38854kN
1...Nc7 2.Qxc7 Rc8 3.Qxe7 Nc4 4.Bc5 Rxa3 5.bxa3 Nxa3+ 6.Kc1
  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 15   00:17:10  57003kN

(,  24.01.2006)



comparison with latest rybka same conditions

New game
q3nrk1/4bppp/3p4/r3nPP1/4P2P/NpQ1B3/1P4B1/1K1R3R b - - 0 1

Analysis by Rybka 1.01 Beta 12 32-bit:

1...Rxa3
  ²  (0.35)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
1...Rxa3
  ²  (0.48)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
1...Rxa3 2.bxa3
  ²  (0.56)   Depth: 5   00:00:00
1...Ra6 2.f6
  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 5   00:00:00
1...Ra6 2.Rd4 Ng4
  ²  (0.53)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  14kN
1...Ra6 2.Rd4 Ng4 3.Qxb3
  ²  (0.51)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  24kN
1...Ra6 2.Rc1 Ng4 3.Qxb3 Nxe3
  ±  (0.83)   Depth: 8   00:00:01  61kN
1...Ng4 2.Qxb3
  ²  (0.64)   Depth: 8   00:00:01  96kN
1...Ng4 2.Bb6 Ra6 3.Bd4 d5 4.Bf1
  ²  (0.51)   Depth: 9   00:00:03  212kN
1...Ng4 2.Bb6 Ra6 3.Bd4 Ne5 4.Rh3
  ²  (0.68)   Depth: 10   00:00:04  286kN
1...Ng4 2.Bd4 d5 3.Bh3 h5 4.gxh6 Nxh6 5.Rhg1
  ±  (0.74)   Depth: 11   00:00:16  872kN
1...Ng4 2.Bd4 d5 3.Bh3 h5 4.gxh6 Nxh6 5.Rhg1 f6
  ±  (0.75)   Depth: 12   00:00:38  2142kN
1...Ra6 2.Rc1 Ng4 3.Bd4
  ±  (0.71)   Depth: 12   00:00:42  2374kN
1...Ra6 2.Rc1 Ng4 3.Bd4 Ra4 4.Rhd1 d5 5.Qc6 Qxc6 6.Rxc6 dxe4
  ±  (0.72)   Depth: 13   00:01:06  3481kN
1...Ra6 2.Rc1 Ng4 3.Bd4 d5 4.Bf3
  ±  (0.77)   Depth: 14   00:02:44  8743kN
1...Nf6 2.gxf6 Bxf6 3.Rd2 Rc8 4.Qb4 Rxa3
  ²  (0.38)   Depth: 14   00:06:20  19220kN
1...Nf6 2.gxf6 Bxf6 3.Bd4 Rc8 4.Qb4 Nc6 5.e5 Nxb4
  =  (0.13)   Depth: 15   00:07:38  23960kN
1...Nf6 2.gxf6 Bxf6 3.Bd4 Rc8 4.Qb4 Nc6 5.e5 Nxb4 6.Bxa8 dxe5 7.Bc3 Rxa3 8.bxa3
  =  (0.22)   Depth: 16   00:09:15  29431kN
1...Nc7 2.Qxc7 Rc8 3.Qxe7 Nc4 4.Bc5 Rxa3 5.bxa3 Rxc5 6.a4 Na3+ 7.Kb2 Rc2+ 8.Kxa3
  -+  (-1.42)   Depth: 16   00:14:58  46836kN

(,  24.01.2006)






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