Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 02:48:28 01/25/06
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On January 24, 2006 at 23:54:43, Mike Byrne wrote: >On January 24, 2006 at 22:12:23, Rolf Tueschen wrote: > >>On January 24, 2006 at 22:09:27, Dann Corbit wrote: >> >>>On January 24, 2006 at 21:45:06, Graham Banks wrote: >>> >>>>On January 24, 2006 at 21:39:31, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>> >>>>>On January 24, 2006 at 21:34:48, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >>>>>[snip] >>>>>>The Old Siberian CHess wasnt bad either. But honestly isnt that a contradictio >>>>>>in prosecco if you say strong _and_ ultra-tiny? Sounds as if you meant a >>>>>>peabrain? How could it be strong? >>>>> >>>>>"I myself am often surprised at life's little quirks..." -- The man in black. >>>>> >>>>>Elo list from: >>>>>http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/ >>>>> >>>>>RankProgram: Ed 11 Comm Priv Ed 10 Ed 9 Ed 8 >>>>> >>>>>1 Fruit WCCC'05 2794* 2631 2610 2551 >>>>>2 Shredder 9-x64 2766* 2818 2760 2766 >>>>>3 Gandalf 6.01 2736* 2702 2738 2582 >>>>>4 Pro Deo 1.1 2730 2689 2672 2724 >>>>>5 Thinker 5.0b x64 2729 2590 2575 2617 >>>>>6 Zappa 1.1 x64 2724 2668 New New >>>>>[snip] >>>>> >>>>>The 5.0b version is not generally available (I understand he is working on an >>>>>update now) but the version that I have is also very strong and is 70K in size. >>>> >>>> >>>>The Thinker.exe file for Thinker 5.0b is 49kb in size! >>> >>>If we continue our extrapolation, it becomes infinitely smart at zero size. >>>;-) >> >>Also it couldnt be engineered backwards... >> >>But you guys please tell me why isnt THinker promoted and supported like Rybka? >>I dont get it. > >Simple - There is nothing else like Rybka -- it is - at the moment, the >strongest engine per Ghz. > >The endefeated Rybka is the standard Beta 12, all others have tweaked settings. > >Many more rounds to play. > > Engine Score >01: Rybka v1.01 Beta 12.x64 5.0/5 >02: Rybka v1.01 Beta 12.x64 [001] 4.0/5 >03: Rybka v1.01 Beta 12.x64 [111] 4.0/5 >04: Rybka v1.01 Beta 12.x64 [010] 4.0/5 >05: Pro Deo 4.0/5 >06: Toga II 3.5/5 >07: Rybka v1.01 Beta 12.x64 [011] 3.5/5 >08: Rybka v1.01 Beta 12.x64 [110] 3.5/5 >09: GFruit-4bx 3.0/5 >10: Shredder 8 3.0/5 >11: Fruit 2.1 3.0/5 >11: Rybka v1.01 Beta 12.x64 msvtus6vp 3.0/5 >13: Shredder Classic 1.3 3.0/5 >14: Rybka v1.01 Beta 12.x64 [101] 3.0/5 >15: Rybka v1.01 Beta 12.x64 [100] 3.0/5 >16: Rybka v1.01 Beta 12.x64 MFB 2.5/5 >17: Rybka v1.01 Beta 10d.x64 MFB 2.5/5 >18: Shredder 9.1 2.0/5 >18: Rybka v1.0 Preview 2 x64 2.0/5 >20: Gandalf60 2.0/5 >21: Crafty64 19.20 2.0/5 >22: Rebel 12 1.5/5 >23: Deep Sjeng 1.6 1.0/5 >24: AnMon 5.50 0.5/5 >25: Zappa 1.1 0.5/5 >25: Ruffian 2.1 0.5/5 >27: TheKing 3.23 0.5/5 >28: SOS 5.1 for Arena 0.0/5 Mike, what you oversee is this: you could get the same results if you only had a single Rybka entry and some 20 actually differently tuned Shredders!! This is stats and NOT original strength. I used to give the example of the Bobby Fischer problem in 1962 Curacao... You have no chance as a single player if some 6 or 8 opponents can enter cooperation mode just by their mere number of players.
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