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Subject: Re: PGN Why is it so difficult to read * About Authenticity

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 03:38:27 01/25/06

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On January 25, 2006 at 06:28:39, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>Yes, Uri. Just like Gunter explained, the user himself has the power to decide
>which version he wants to choose for the publication. If he decides in the
>"long" way, your Thorsten cant call it syphilis, because it would mean that the
>user himself had that illness... ;)

the whole computerchess newsgroups get spammed by this stupid new pgn format.

it needs lot of more space and nobody can read it.
especially not people NOT using chessbase products.

IMO we should lawsuit CB for stealing internet space and download time.

again: if you compare

[Event "60 Moves in 60 min"]
[Site "Engine Match"]
[Date "2005.09.15"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Pro Deo 1.1"]
[Black "Toga II 1.0"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. e4 {0.00/1 7s} d6 {book 0s} 2. d4 {0.00/1 1s} d5 {book
0s} 3. exd5 {+1.11/9 57s} Qxd5 {book 0s} 4. Nc3 {+0.98/10
2:27m} Qe6+ {book 0s} 5. Be2 {+0.96/9 46s} c6 {book 0s}
6. Nf3 {+1.23/11 46s} Nf6 {book 0s} 7. O-O {+1.30/11 1:35m}
Ng4 {book 0s} 8. Ng5 {+1.89/10 37s} Qd6 {book 0s} 9. Bxg4
{+3.99/11 1:13m} Bxg4 {book 0s} 10. Qxg4 {+4.02/7 6s} f6
{book 0s} 11. Qc8+ {+8.52/11 58s} Qd8 {book 0s} 12. Qxd8+
{+8.48/13 1:13m} Kxd8 {book 0s} 13. Nf7+ {+7.52/13 38s} Ke8
{book 0s} 14. Nxh8 {+7.47/12 16s} g6 {book 0s} 15. Re1
{+7.32/12 1:16m} Na6 {-7.59/15 1:53m} 16. Bf4 {+7.60/11
47s} Rd8 {-7.36/15 1:40m} 17. d5 {+7.35/10 48s} 1-0


with this

[Event "rybka 1.0 beta 32bit - H10 tc03, 40'/40"]
[Site "SCW"]
[Date "2005.12.08"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit"]
[Black "Hiarcs 10"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "D14"]
[Annotator "0.16;-0.22"]
[PlyCount "99"]
[TimeControl "40/2400:40/2400:40/2400"]

{W=12.7 ply; 30kN/s  B=12.6 ply; 110kN/s; 90 TBAs} 1. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6
{[%emt 0:00:00]} 2. d4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} c6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 3. c4 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} d5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 4. Nc3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Bf5 {[%emt 0:00:00]
} 5. cxd5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} cxd5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 6. Bf4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} e6 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} 7. e3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nc6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 8. Bd3 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} Bxd3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 9. Qxd3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Bd6 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} 10. Bxd6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Qxd6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 11. O-O {
[%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {[%emt 0:00:00]} 12. Rfc1 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Rfc8 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} 13. h3 {Weiß letzter Buchzug [%emt 0:00:00]} a6 {[%emt 0:00:00]
} 14. Na4 {[%eval 16,13] [%emt 0:01:30]} Rc7 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 15. a3 {
[%eval 4,14] [%emt 0:02:17]} Ne4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 16. Nc5 {
[%eval 4,14] [%emt 0:01:52]} Rac8 {Schwarz letzter Buchzug [%emt 0:00:00]} 17.
Nd2 {[%eval 9,13] [%emt 0:01:12]} f5 {(Sxd2) [%eval -22,12] [%emt 0:01:37]} 18.
b4 {(f4) [%eval 18,13] [%emt 0:01:09]} e5 {[%eval -35,12] [%emt 0:01:45]} 19.
dxe5 {(Sf3) [%eval 16,14] [%emt 0:02:05]} Nxe5 {
(Dxe5) [%eval -41,12] [%emt 0:01:12]} 20. Ndxe4 {[%eval 8,14] [%emt 0:00:51]}
fxe4 {[%eval -42,13] [%emt 0:00:23]} 21. Qd1 {[%eval 18,13] [%emt 0:00:44]} Rd8
{[%eval -40,12] [%emt 0:01:37]} 22. Qd4 {[%eval 8,12] [%emt 0:01:15]} Qf6 {
(a5) [%eval -59,12] [%emt 0:01:11]} 23. Rd1 {[%eval 35,12] [%emt 0:01:25]} Qf5
{[%eval -23,12] [%emt 0:04:10]} 24. Ra2 {(Sxe4) [%eval 25,5] [%emt 0:01:34]}
Rf7 {(Sc6) [%eval -51,11] [%emt 0:01:15]} 25. Kh2 {
(a4) [%eval 30,9] [%emt 0:00:46]} Nc6 {[%eval -70,12] [%emt 0:02:21]} 26. Qc3 {
(Db2) [%eval -15,11] [%emt 0:00:28]} Rd6 {[%eval -109,12] [%emt 0:01:31]} 27.
a4 {(Db3) [%eval -30,10] [%emt 0:01:06]} Ne5 {
(Tg6) [%eval -221,11] [%emt 0:01:31]} 28. Nxe4 {[%eval -239,12] [%emt 0:05:20]}
Qxe4 {[%eval -254,11] [%emt 0:01:55]} 29. Qc5 {[%eval -249,12] [%emt 0:00:58]}
Rfd7 {(Tff6) [%eval -249,11] [%emt 0:01:54]} 30. Rd4 {
[%eval -256,13] [%emt 0:01:19]} Qg6 {(Db1) [%eval -241,11] [%emt 0:01:16]} 31.
b5 {[%eval -246,12] [%emt 0:00:43]} Qe8 {(Td8) [%eval -244,11] [%emt 0:01:31]}
32. Rc2 {(Kg1) [%eval -233,10] [%emt 0:00:20]} Rd8 {
(Sc4) [%eval -248,12] [%emt 0:01:32]} 33. f4 {
(Tc1) [%eval -251,12] [%emt 0:01:23]} Ng6 {[%eval -286,12] [%emt 0:01:53]} 34.
Qa3 {(Te2) [%eval -266,13] [%emt 0:03:47]} axb5 {[%eval -309,13] [%emt 0:02:36]
} 35. axb5 {[%eval -275,13] [%emt 0:00:42]} Rb6 {
(Te6) [%eval -317,13] [%emt 0:01:22]} 36. Rc7 {[%eval -277,11] [%emt 0:00:57]}
Nh4 {[%eval -314,12] [%emt 0:01:43]} 37. Rd2 {
(Dd3) [%eval -293,11] [%emt 0:01:15]} Nf5 {[%eval -338,11] [%emt 0:00:54]} 38.
Qc3 {[%eval -335,12] [%emt 0:01:23]} Rg6 {[%eval -352,11] [%emt 0:00:56]} 39.
Rf2 {(De5) [%eval -370,12] [%emt 0:01:44]} b6 {
(Dxb5) [%eval -365,12] [%emt 0:01:48]} 40. Re2 {
(Tf3) [%eval -350,12] [%emt 0:01:02]} Qxb5 {
(Tg3) [%eval -369,12] [%emt 0:01:55]} 41. Rc8 {[%eval -346,12] [%emt 0:00:54]}
Rgd6 {[%eval -373,12] [%emt 0:01:12]} 42. Qc7 {
(Dc2) [%eval -373,14] [%emt 0:01:48]} Qe8 {(Dd7) [%eval -376,13] [%emt 0:01:22]
} 43. Rxd8 {[%eval -374,15] [%emt 0:00:25]} Qxd8 {
[%eval -378,13] [%emt 0:00:39]} 44. Qc2 {[%eval -377,14] [%emt 0:00:41]} Qf6 {
[%eval -381,13] [%emt 0:01:09]} 45. Qd3 {(g4) [%eval -390,13] [%emt 0:01:31]}
d4 {[%eval -392,12] [%emt 0:00:51]} 46. exd4 {[%eval -390,13] [%emt 0:00:58]}
Nxd4 {(Txd4) [%eval -395,13] [%emt 0:01:05]} 47. Qc4+ {
[%eval -390,12] [%emt 0:00:15]} Kf8 {[%eval -395,14] [%emt 0:01:03]} 48. Re4 {
[%eval -390,13] [%emt 0:00:32]} h5 {(Td8) [%eval -384,12] [%emt 0:01:01]} 49.
Qb4 {(Kh1) [%eval -390,11] [%emt 0:00:44]} h4 {
(b5) [%eval -402,13] [%emt 0:00:59]} 50. Kg1 {
(De1) adjud. [%eval -396,12] [%emt 0:01:29]} 0-1

which is better to use ?



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