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Subject: Re: Rybka improvements

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 05:01:36 01/26/06

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On January 26, 2006 at 07:53:39, Joseph Ciarrochi wrote:

>
>>
>>I think that it is a bad comparison because the CEGT use different positions and
>>not the noomen test.
>>
>>The only good way to compare is if the same computer and the same positions
>>are used for the first version and the last version.
>>
>>Uri
>
>yes, i am planning to run beta 1 on the same computer against the same
>opponents. I agree this is the best control
>
>However, your use of terms like "bad comparison" and "the only good way"
>suggests that there is no generality across computers and opening sets. I am
>sure despite your language you don't mean anythything quite this extreme? This
>sort of language would imply that you can't really ever say one engine is
>stronger than another, since it would be "entirely" conditional on opening set
>and computer.
>
>Actually, my experience has been  that the results are quite consistent, if you
>hold time controls constant. indeed, even when you don't hold time controls
>constant, they are pretty consistent (the 40/4 blitz cegts rating predicts over
>99% of the variance in the 40/40 time control ratings).
>
>Anyway, i am open to you empirically supporting your arguments.


Why empirical if the theory already has proven it? I dont understand your
intentions. Do you want to keep Rybka in the news or what is the meaning of your
activity overflooding? Just do it like Jim Walker. He simply stops a test if a
new update is coming. Who cares about the news from yesterday? Then you get also
rid of the disturbing stats questions. ;)


>Perhaps you can
>provide evidence for poor generalization across different computers or across
>different, well accepted opening sets (assuming the 40/4 repeated time control).
>
>In the meantime, i'll finish running this tournment (1200 games to go:() and
>then examine the extent my results overlap with the CEGT 40/4 rating list.
>
>
>best
>Joseph



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