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Subject: Re: A New Topic: How Much Testing to get rid of the ChessFactor?

Author: Sune Larsson

Date: 06:28:47 01/26/06

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On January 26, 2006 at 08:54:39, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>On January 26, 2006 at 08:43:36, Günther Simon wrote:
>
>>On January 26, 2006 at 08:29:41, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>
>>>This is a new question IMO. How much testing must be done before you can assume
>>>that the factor chess doesnt play a decisive role regarding the results? Test
>>>positions were mentioned. Nunn opening lines. When could we make conclusions
>>>that now it's time to publish a realy true ranking of quality for chess engines?
>>>Just to clarify, I dont mean "normal" probability changes and boundaries.
>>
>>The chess factor (strength in playing chess)is exactly what should be measured,
>>thus I don't understand what you mean by gettin' rid off that?
>>Can you explain better what you liked to question?
>>(The last two sentences even don't make any sense in English?)
>>
>>Guenther
>
>
>Thanks for asking.
>
>I dont need to lecture about the concretness of chess. I mean from when on could
>we speak of such engine strength without having to fear that a special position
>or line or problem does NOT appear. Because we know that if it appears that then
>the strongest engine plays nonsense. Out of principal reasons I mean. That
>doesnt happen among chessplayers. There the Elo number reflects a general
>quality of play. I must always think of my subject line when experts like Hyatt
>inform us how low the general knowledge of the engines still is regarding King
>safety, just to begin with. In other words I ask, from when on, already now?,
>could we speak reasonably of chess strength of engines if they behave like nuts
>in certain basic situations?
>
>In the past we had a different debate. From what ply depth on we could speak of
>almost not improvable strength for a chess engine? Regarding the general
>requirements of the Middle Game.
>
>So to give it in easy speaky: when is the moment we must not consider special
>chess situations/problems if we are talking about a strong engine?


 When is the moment? I'll give it a go. My Tarot cards suggests 4th of July
 2006! We'll see...;-)

 /S



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