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Subject: Re: Best positional program

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 07:26:55 04/07/99

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On April 06, 1999 at 23:47:51, blass uri wrote:

>
>On April 06, 1999 at 15:30:41, Brian Smith wrote:
>
>>
>>>An interesting point of view.  In my opinion it is possible to determine the
>>>strongest positional program to be the one that comes out top the most on
>>>positional 'decisions'.  A lot of work has already been done in some circles in
>>>this area, and although not particularly impressive compared with good human
>>>chess players the 'knowledge programs' seem to do best (i.e. Hiarcs 7.01,
>>>Rebel10c and MCP8...possibly in that order)
>>
>>
>>What I don't understand is how CM, being a slow knowledge program, can be a
>>bad(????: is it really?) positional program, but a tactical monster.
>
>I think that it is not a bad positional program relative to other programs.
>
>It sometimes finds tactics that other programs cannot find but it is also can be
>the opposite.
>
>I looked at the thinking lines of CM6000 and it is a stupid searcher.
>It most of the time search irrelevant lines and it proves that there is much to
>improve in the search algorithems of programs.
>
>A slow searcher that know to search the right lines can be better than every
>program in tactics.
>
>Uri

I don't know about generic positions, but CM6000 is doing something right when
it comes to mating attacks.  Even CM4000 did.  Other programs see +2, CM4000
would jump up to +8888, then either settle to "+9985" (which is mate in 12) or
+1200.  Maybe other programs have improved in this area as well since that time
(whenever CM4000 was current.)

Dave Gomboc



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