Author: Albert Silver
Date: 13:05:06 01/26/06
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On January 26, 2006 at 15:45:57, chandler yergin wrote:
>On January 26, 2006 at 13:59:45, Albert Silver wrote:
>
>>On January 26, 2006 at 13:54:32, chandler yergin wrote:
>>
>>>Well it's WRONG!
>>>New game,
>>>[D]B2k4/KPpP4/n1Pb4/P5p1/5p2/5P2/8/8 b - - 0 1
>>>
>>>Analysis by Shredder 8:
>>>
>>>1. -+ (-1.81): 1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Bc5 3.a6 g4 4.a7 Bd6 5.fxg4
>>>2. +- (#8): 1...Ke7 2.Kxa6 Kf6 3.d8Q+ Be7 4.Qh8+ Ke6 5.b8Q Bf6 6.Qb3+ Ke5 7.Qb2+
>>>Kd5 8.Qhxf6 g4 9.Qbd4#
>>>3. +- (#7): 1...Bf8 2.Kxa6 Ke7 3.b8Q Kf7 4.d8Q Be7 5.Qg8+ Kf6 6.Qbb3
>>>4. +- (#7): 1...Bc5+ 2.Kxa6 Ke7 3.b8Q Kf6 4.d8Q+ Be7 5.Qh8+ Kf5 6.Qbc8+ Kg6
>>>7.Qhg8+ Kh5 8.Qh3#
>>>
>>>(, 26.01.2006)
>>
>>I'm a bit confused. You didn't even show Shredder finding the mate after Nb8.
>>You only showed it was capable of finding the mate if Black played a weaker move
>>than Nb8. How long does it take to see the mate after Black plays the more
>>resilient Nb8?
>>
>> Albert
> Hi Al, My old friend.
>I been drinkin... I for get things, Sometimes I for get I forget things..
>
>You should know I forget things... If ya can't remenber I forget things,
>
>Ya have a Sobriety Problem.. in which case I can recommend some good Irish
>Whiskey...
>
>But to the point, yes, you are right. If White plays the 'Best move'
>does Black hav a Win?
>
>I dunno....
>
>Here is my Analysis.. or rather (Computer Analysis)
>
>I won't argue with that. O. K.?
>
>New game,
>[D]B2k4/KPpP4/n1Pb4/P5p1/5p2/5P2/8/8 b - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Shredder 8:
>
>1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Bc5 3.a6 g4 4.a7 Ke7 5.fxg4 f3 6.Kxc7 Bxa7 7.b8Q Bxb8+ 8.Kxb8 Kd8
>9.g5 f2 10.g6 f1Q 11.g7 Qb1+ 12.Ka7 Qg1+ 13.Kb7 Qxg7
>-+ (-5.41) Depth: 33/56 00:06:37 82845kN, tb=15015
>(, 26.01.2006)
>
>So, In your opinion, does this mean that Black does NOT have a Win in 20?
>
>It certainly means the (other guy) could not possible found a Win for Black
>in 3 seconds)
It could find it. This sort of phenomenon of an engine finding something in a
second while others take minutes is nothing new. it's just one of those quirks.
It only proves that Shredder 8 is one of the slow ones as well. It no doubt just
needs more time.
Albert
>
>Well.. I need some Jose Cuervo!
>
>Post your analysis. O.K.?
>
>Thanks my friend,
>Chan
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