Author: chandler yergin
Date: 13:28:02 01/26/06
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On January 26, 2006 at 16:05:06, Albert Silver wrote: >On January 26, 2006 at 15:45:57, chandler yergin wrote: > >>On January 26, 2006 at 13:59:45, Albert Silver wrote: >> >>>On January 26, 2006 at 13:54:32, chandler yergin wrote: >>> >>>>Well it's WRONG! >>>>New game, >>>>[D]B2k4/KPpP4/n1Pb4/P5p1/5p2/5P2/8/8 b - - 0 1 >>>> >>>>Analysis by Shredder 8: >>>> >>>>1. -+ (-1.81): 1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Bc5 3.a6 g4 4.a7 Bd6 5.fxg4 >>>>2. +- (#8): 1...Ke7 2.Kxa6 Kf6 3.d8Q+ Be7 4.Qh8+ Ke6 5.b8Q Bf6 6.Qb3+ Ke5 7.Qb2+ >>>>Kd5 8.Qhxf6 g4 9.Qbd4# >>>>3. +- (#7): 1...Bf8 2.Kxa6 Ke7 3.b8Q Kf7 4.d8Q Be7 5.Qg8+ Kf6 6.Qbb3 >>>>4. +- (#7): 1...Bc5+ 2.Kxa6 Ke7 3.b8Q Kf6 4.d8Q+ Be7 5.Qh8+ Kf5 6.Qbc8+ Kg6 >>>>7.Qhg8+ Kh5 8.Qh3# >>>> >>>>(, 26.01.2006) >>> >>>I'm a bit confused. You didn't even show Shredder finding the mate after Nb8. >>>You only showed it was capable of finding the mate if Black played a weaker move >>>than Nb8. How long does it take to see the mate after Black plays the more >>>resilient Nb8? >>> >>> Albert >> Hi Al, My old friend. >>I been drinkin... I for get things, Sometimes I for get I forget things.. >> >>You should know I forget things... If ya can't remenber I forget things, >> >>Ya have a Sobriety Problem.. in which case I can recommend some good Irish >>Whiskey... >> >>But to the point, yes, you are right. If White plays the 'Best move' >>does Black hav a Win? >> >>I dunno.... >> >>Here is my Analysis.. or rather (Computer Analysis) >> >>I won't argue with that. O. K.? >> >>New game, >>[D]B2k4/KPpP4/n1Pb4/P5p1/5p2/5P2/8/8 b - - 0 1 >> >>Analysis by Shredder 8: >> >>1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Bc5 3.a6 g4 4.a7 Ke7 5.fxg4 f3 6.Kxc7 Bxa7 7.b8Q Bxb8+ 8.Kxb8 Kd8 >>9.g5 f2 10.g6 f1Q 11.g7 Qb1+ 12.Ka7 Qg1+ 13.Kb7 Qxg7 >>-+ (-5.41) Depth: 33/56 00:06:37 82845kN, tb=15015 >>(, 26.01.2006) >> >>So, In your opinion, does this mean that Black does NOT have a Win in 20? >> >>It certainly means the (other guy) could not possible found a Win for Black >>in 3 seconds) > >It could find it. This sort of phenomenon of an engine finding something in a >second while others take minutes is nothing new. it's just one of those quirks. >It only proves that Shredder 8 is one of the slow ones as well. It no doubt just >needs more time. Make him Post the Analysis! Otherwise it's all BS! You Know it! I know it! For others they are living in Laa Laa land! Delusional! Period! > > Albert > >> >>Well.. I need some Jose Cuervo! >> >>Post your analysis. O.K.? >> >>Thanks my friend, >>Chan
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