Author: Albert Silver
Date: 14:07:23 01/26/06
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On January 26, 2006 at 16:28:02, chandler yergin wrote:
>On January 26, 2006 at 16:05:06, Albert Silver wrote:
>
>>On January 26, 2006 at 15:45:57, chandler yergin wrote:
>>
>>>On January 26, 2006 at 13:59:45, Albert Silver wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 26, 2006 at 13:54:32, chandler yergin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Well it's WRONG!
>>>>>New game,
>>>>>[D]B2k4/KPpP4/n1Pb4/P5p1/5p2/5P2/8/8 b - - 0 1
>>>>>
>>>>>Analysis by Shredder 8:
>>>>>
>>>>>1. -+ (-1.81): 1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Bc5 3.a6 g4 4.a7 Bd6 5.fxg4
>>>>>2. +- (#8): 1...Ke7 2.Kxa6 Kf6 3.d8Q+ Be7 4.Qh8+ Ke6 5.b8Q Bf6 6.Qb3+ Ke5 7.Qb2+
>>>>>Kd5 8.Qhxf6 g4 9.Qbd4#
>>>>>3. +- (#7): 1...Bf8 2.Kxa6 Ke7 3.b8Q Kf7 4.d8Q Be7 5.Qg8+ Kf6 6.Qbb3
>>>>>4. +- (#7): 1...Bc5+ 2.Kxa6 Ke7 3.b8Q Kf6 4.d8Q+ Be7 5.Qh8+ Kf5 6.Qbc8+ Kg6
>>>>>7.Qhg8+ Kh5 8.Qh3#
>>>>>
>>>>>(, 26.01.2006)
>>>>
>>>>I'm a bit confused. You didn't even show Shredder finding the mate after Nb8.
>>>>You only showed it was capable of finding the mate if Black played a weaker move
>>>>than Nb8. How long does it take to see the mate after Black plays the more
>>>>resilient Nb8?
>>>>
>>>> Albert
>>> Hi Al, My old friend.
>>>I been drinkin... I for get things, Sometimes I for get I forget things..
>>>
>>>You should know I forget things... If ya can't remenber I forget things,
>>>
>>>Ya have a Sobriety Problem.. in which case I can recommend some good Irish
>>>Whiskey...
>>>
>>>But to the point, yes, you are right. If White plays the 'Best move'
>>>does Black hav a Win?
>>>
>>>I dunno....
>>>
>>>Here is my Analysis.. or rather (Computer Analysis)
>>>
>>>I won't argue with that. O. K.?
>>>
>>>New game,
>>>[D]B2k4/KPpP4/n1Pb4/P5p1/5p2/5P2/8/8 b - - 0 1
>>>
>>>Analysis by Shredder 8:
>>>
>>>1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Bc5 3.a6 g4 4.a7 Ke7 5.fxg4 f3 6.Kxc7 Bxa7 7.b8Q Bxb8+ 8.Kxb8 Kd8
>>>9.g5 f2 10.g6 f1Q 11.g7 Qb1+ 12.Ka7 Qg1+ 13.Kb7 Qxg7
>>>-+ (-5.41) Depth: 33/56 00:06:37 82845kN, tb=15015
>>>(, 26.01.2006)
>>>
>>>So, In your opinion, does this mean that Black does NOT have a Win in 20?
>>>
>>>It certainly means the (other guy) could not possible found a Win for Black
>>>in 3 seconds)
>>
>>It could find it. This sort of phenomenon of an engine finding something in a
>>second while others take minutes is nothing new. it's just one of those quirks.
>>It only proves that Shredder 8 is one of the slow ones as well. It no doubt just
>>needs more time.
>
>Make him Post the Analysis! Otherwise it's all BS!
He did: http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?482351
Albert
>
>You Know it! I know it! For others they are living in Laa Laa land!
>
>Delusional!
>Period!
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