Author: Albert Silver
Date: 14:18:01 01/26/06
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>>Here is my Analysis.. or rather (Computer Analysis)
>>>
>>>I won't argue with that. O. K.?
>>>
>>>New game,
>>>[D]B2k4/KPpP4/n1Pb4/P5p1/5p2/5P2/8/8 b - - 0 1
>>>
>>>Analysis by Shredder 8:
>>>
>>>1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Bc5 3.a6 g4 4.a7 Ke7 5.fxg4 f3 6.Kxc7 Bxa7 7.b8Q Bxb8+ 8.Kxb8 Kd8
>>>9.g5 f2 10.g6 f1Q 11.g7 Qb1+ 12.Ka7 Qg1+ 13.Kb7 Qxg7
>>>-+ (-5.41) Depth: 33/56 00:06:37 82845kN, tb=15015
>>>(, 26.01.2006)
>>>
>>>So, In your opinion, does this mean that Black does NOT have a Win in 20?
>>>
>>>It certainly means the (other guy) could not possible found a Win for Black
>>>in 3 seconds)
>>
>>It could find it. This sort of phenomenon of an engine finding something in a
>>second while others take minutes is nothing new. it's just one of those quirks.
>>It only proves that Shredder 8 is one of the slow ones as well. It no doubt just
>>needs more time.
>
>Make him Post the Analysis! Otherwise it's all BS!
BTW, not only did he posst his analysis, but you are free to verify it yourself
by downloading and installing AnMon 5.53 yourself. You can find it at
http://www.playwitharena.com/directory/user.htm#engines
I installed it in Fritz and it found it in 2 seconds on my computer (not that I
doubted it would BTW):
Analysis by AnMon5.53:
1...Bc5+ 2.Kxa6
+- (4.05) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1...Bc5+ 2.Kxa6
+- (4.05) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1...Bb4 2.Kxa6
+- (3.93) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1...Bb4 2.Kxa6
+- (3.93) Depth: 1 00:00:00
1...Bb4 2.Kxa6
+- (3.93) Depth: 2 00:00:00
1...Bc5+ 2.Kxa6
+- (3.81) Depth: 2 00:00:00
1...Bc5+ 2.Kxa6
+- (3.81) Depth: 2 00:00:00
1...Bc5+ 2.Kxa6 Ba7 3.Kxa7
+- (10.47) Depth: 3 00:00:00
1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Ke7
+- (4.33) Depth: 3 00:00:00
1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Be5
+- (4.22) Depth: 3 00:00:00
1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Be5 3.a6
+- (4.36) Depth: 4 00:00:00
1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 g4 3.fxg4 f3
+- (4.47) Depth: 5 00:00:01
1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Bc5 3.a6 Bd6 4.a7 Be5
= (0.00) Depth: 6 00:00:01 2kN
1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Bc5 3.a6 Bd6 4.a7 Be5
= (0.00) Depth: 7 00:00:01 3kN
1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Bc5 3.a6 Bd6 4.a7 Be5
= (0.00) Depth: 8 00:00:01 5kN
1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Bc5 3.a6 Bd6 4.a7 Be5
= (0.00) Depth: 9 00:00:01 9kN
1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Bc5 3.a6 Bb6 4.a7 g4 5.fxg4 f3 6.g5 f2 7.g6 f1Q 8.g7 Qc4 9.g8Q+
Qxg8
-+ (-2.11) Depth: 10 00:00:01 19kN
1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Bc5 3.a6 Bb6 4.a7 g4 5.fxg4 f3 6.g5 f2 7.g6 f1Q 8.g7 Qc4 9.g8Q+
Qxg8
-+ (-2.11) Depth: 11 00:00:01 33kN
1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Bc5 3.a6 Bb6 4.a7 g4 5.fxg4 f3 6.g5 f2 7.g6 f1Q 8.g7 Bxa7+ 9.Kxa7
Qa1+ 10.Kb8 Qxg7 11.Ka7 Qd4+ 12.Kb8
³ (-0.68) Depth: 12 00:00:02 104kN
1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Bc5 3.a6 Bb6 4.a7 g4 5.fxg4 f3 6.g5 f2 7.g6 f1Q 8.g7 Bxa7+ 9.Kxa7
Qa1+ 10.Kb8 Qxg7 11.Ka7 Qa1+ 12.Kb8 Qe5 13.Ka7 Qc5+ 14.Kb8 Qxc6
-+ (-4.48) Depth: 13 00:00:02 136kN
1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Bc5 3.a6 Bb6 4.a7 g4 5.fxg4 f3 6.g5 f2 7.g6 f1Q 8.g7 Bxa7+ 9.Kxa7
Qa1+ 10.Kb8 Qxg7 11.Ka7 Qa1+ 12.Kb8 Qe5 13.Ka7 Qc5+ 14.Kb8 Qxc6 15.Ka7 Qc5+
16.Kb8 Kxd7
-+ (-6.50) Depth: 14 00:00:02 168kN
1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Bc5 3.a6 Bb6 4.a7 g4 5.fxg4 f3 6.g5 f2 7.g6 f1Q 8.g7 Bxa7+ 9.Kxa7
Qa1+ 10.Kb8 Qxg7 11.Ka7 Qa1+ 12.Kb8 Qe5 13.Ka7 Qc5+ 14.Kb8 Qxc6 15.Ka7 Qa4+
16.Kb8 Qxd7 17.Ka7
-+ (-6.12) Depth: 15 00:00:02 235kN
1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Bc5 3.a6 Ke7 4.Kxc7 Bd6+ 5.Kc8 g4 6.b8Q Bxb8 7.Kxb8 gxf3 8.d8Q+
Kxd8 9.a7 f2 10.Kb7 f1Q 11.Kb8 Qb5+ 12.Bb7 Qe5+ 13.c7+ Qxc7+ 14.Ka8
-+ (-6.93) Depth: 16 00:00:02 334kN
1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Bc5 3.a6 Bb6 4.a7 g4 5.fxg4 f3 6.g5 f2 7.g6 f1Q 8.g7 Bxa7+ 9.Kxa7
Qa1+ 10.Kb8 Qxg7 11.Ka7 Qa1+ 12.Kb8 Qe5 13.Ka7 Qc5+ 14.Kb8 Qxc6 15.Ka7 Qa4+
16.Kb8 Qxd7 17.Ka7
-+ (-6.90) Depth: 17 00:00:02 489kN
1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Bc5 3.a6 Bb6 4.a7 g4 5.fxg4 f3 6.g5 f2 7.g6 f1Q 8.g7 Bxa7+ 9.Kxa7
Qa1+ 10.Kb8 Qxg7 11.Ka7 Qa1+ 12.Kb8 Qe5 13.Ka7 Qc5+ 14.Kb8 Qxc6 15.Ka7 Qa4+
16.Kb8 Qxd7 17.Ka7
-+ (-#20) Depth: 18 00:00:02 505kN
1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Bc5 3.a6 Bb6 4.a7 g4 5.fxg4 f3 6.g5 f2 7.g6 f1Q 8.g7 Bxa7+ 9.Kxa7
Qa1+ 10.Kb8 Qxg7 11.Ka7 Qa1+ 12.Kb8 Qe5 13.Ka7 Qc5+ 14.Kb8 Qxc6 15.Ka7 Qa4+
16.Kb8 Qxd7 17.Ka7
-+ (-#20) Depth: 18 00:00:11 6109kN
(Silver, Private 26.01.2006)
Albert
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