Author: chandler yergin
Date: 14:51:47 01/26/06
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On January 26, 2006 at 17:07:23, Albert Silver wrote: >On January 26, 2006 at 16:28:02, chandler yergin wrote: > >>On January 26, 2006 at 16:05:06, Albert Silver wrote: >> >>>On January 26, 2006 at 15:45:57, chandler yergin wrote: >>> >>>>On January 26, 2006 at 13:59:45, Albert Silver wrote: >>>> >>>>>On January 26, 2006 at 13:54:32, chandler yergin wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Well it's WRONG! >>>>>>New game, >>>>>>[D]B2k4/KPpP4/n1Pb4/P5p1/5p2/5P2/8/8 b - - 0 1 >>>>>> >>>>>>Analysis by Shredder 8: >>>>>> >>>>>>1. -+ (-1.81): 1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Bc5 3.a6 g4 4.a7 Bd6 5.fxg4 >>>>>>2. +- (#8): 1...Ke7 2.Kxa6 Kf6 3.d8Q+ Be7 4.Qh8+ Ke6 5.b8Q Bf6 6.Qb3+ Ke5 7.Qb2+ >>>>>>Kd5 8.Qhxf6 g4 9.Qbd4# >>>>>>3. +- (#7): 1...Bf8 2.Kxa6 Ke7 3.b8Q Kf7 4.d8Q Be7 5.Qg8+ Kf6 6.Qbb3 >>>>>>4. +- (#7): 1...Bc5+ 2.Kxa6 Ke7 3.b8Q Kf6 4.d8Q+ Be7 5.Qh8+ Kf5 6.Qbc8+ Kg6 >>>>>>7.Qhg8+ Kh5 8.Qh3# >>>>>> >>>>>>(, 26.01.2006) >>>>> >>>>>I'm a bit confused. You didn't even show Shredder finding the mate after Nb8. >>>>>You only showed it was capable of finding the mate if Black played a weaker move >>>>>than Nb8. How long does it take to see the mate after Black plays the more >>>>>resilient Nb8? >>>>> >>>>> Albert >>>> Hi Al, My old friend. >>>>I been drinkin... I for get things, Sometimes I for get I forget things.. >>>> >>>>You should know I forget things... If ya can't remenber I forget things, >>>> >>>>Ya have a Sobriety Problem.. in which case I can recommend some good Irish >>>>Whiskey... >>>> >>>>But to the point, yes, you are right. If White plays the 'Best move' >>>>does Black hav a Win? >>>> >>>>I dunno.... >>>> >>>>Here is my Analysis.. or rather (Computer Analysis) >>>> >>>>I won't argue with that. O. K.? >>>> >>>>New game, >>>>[D]B2k4/KPpP4/n1Pb4/P5p1/5p2/5P2/8/8 b - - 0 1 >>>> >>>>Analysis by Shredder 8: >>>> >>>>1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Bc5 3.a6 g4 4.a7 Ke7 5.fxg4 f3 6.Kxc7 Bxa7 7.b8Q Bxb8+ 8.Kxb8 Kd8 >>>>9.g5 f2 10.g6 f1Q 11.g7 Qb1+ 12.Ka7 Qg1+ 13.Kb7 Qxg7 >>>>-+ (-5.41) Depth: 33/56 00:06:37 82845kN, tb=15015 >>>>(, 26.01.2006) >>>> >>>>So, In your opinion, does this mean that Black does NOT have a Win in 20? >>>> >>>>It certainly means the (other guy) could not possible found a Win for Black >>>>in 3 seconds) >>> >>>It could find it. This sort of phenomenon of an engine finding something in a >>>second while others take minutes is nothing new. it's just one of those quirks. >>>It only proves that Shredder 8 is one of the slow ones as well. It no doubt just >>>needs more time. >> >>Make him Post the Analysis! Otherwise it's all BS! > >He did: http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?482351 > > Albert > Wheres't trhe MATE! It's a frigging "Evaluation!" DON'T YA GET IT? >> >>You Know it! I know it! For others they are living in Laa Laa land! >> >>Delusional! >>Period!
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