Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 17:08:37 01/26/06
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On January 26, 2006 at 17:54:44, Albert Silver wrote:
>On January 26, 2006 at 17:48:31, chandler yergin wrote:
>
>>On January 26, 2006 at 17:18:01, Albert Silver wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>>Here is my Analysis.. or rather (Computer Analysis)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I won't argue with that. O. K.?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>New game,
>>>>>>[D]B2k4/KPpP4/n1Pb4/P5p1/5p2/5P2/8/8 b - - 0 1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Analysis by Shredder 8:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Bc5 3.a6 g4 4.a7 Ke7 5.fxg4 f3 6.Kxc7 Bxa7 7.b8Q Bxb8+ 8.Kxb8 Kd8
>>>>>>9.g5 f2 10.g6 f1Q 11.g7 Qb1+ 12.Ka7 Qg1+ 13.Kb7 Qxg7
>>>>>>-+ (-5.41) Depth: 33/56 00:06:37 82845kN, tb=15015
>>>>>>(, 26.01.2006)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So, In your opinion, does this mean that Black does NOT have a Win in 20?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It certainly means the (other guy) could not possible found a Win for Black
>>>>>>in 3 seconds)
>>>>>
>>>>>It could find it. This sort of phenomenon of an engine finding something in a
>>>>>second while others take minutes is nothing new. it's just one of those quirks.
>>>>>It only proves that Shredder 8 is one of the slow ones as well. It no doubt just
>>>>>needs more time.
>>>>
>>>>Make him Post the Analysis! Otherwise it's all BS!
>>>
>>>BTW, not only did he posst his analysis, but you are free to verify it yourself
>>>by downloading and installing AnMon 5.53 yourself. You can find it at
>>>http://www.playwitharena.com/directory/user.htm#engines
>>
>>He found an "Evaluation" He did NOT take it to MATE!
>>
>>Because there IS NOT ONE!
>>Stop your Nonsense!
>
>Are you blind? For your information the (-#20) you see at ply 18 means mate in
>20.
>
>Analysis by AnMon5.53:
>
>1...Nb8 2.Kxb8 Bc5 3.a6 Bb6 4.a7 g4 5.fxg4 f3 6.g5 f2 7.g6 f1Q 8.g7 Bxa7+ 9.Kxa7
>Qa1+ 10.Kb8 Qxg7 11.Ka7 Qa1+ 12.Kb8 Qe5 13.Ka7 Qc5+ 14.Kb8 Qxc6 15.Ka7 Qa4+
>16.Kb8 Qxd7 17.Ka7
> -+ (-#20) Depth: 18 00:00:02 505kN
>
>
> Albert
Here is something interesting, with all 5 man tablebase files, AnMon does not
find the shorter mate nearly so quickly.
Analysis from E:\M20.EPD
1/26/2006 4:50:22 PM Level: 900 Seconds
Analyzing engine: AnMon_553
1)
Avoid move:
Best move (AnMon_553): Na6-b8
Not found in: 15:00
2 00:00 35 0 -3.93 Bd6b4 Ka7xa6
2+ 00:00 37 0 -3.81 Bd6c5+ Ka7xa6
2 00:00 39 0 -3.81 Bd6c5+ Ka7xa6
3 00:00 251 0 -10.47 Bd6c5+ Ka7xa6 Bc5a7 Ka6xa7
3+ 00:00 403 0 -4.33 Na6b8 Ka7xb8 Kd8e7
3 00:00 424 0 -4.22 Na6b8 Ka7xb8 Bd6e5
4 00:00 470 0 -4.36 Na6b8 Ka7xb8 Bd6e5 a5a6
5 00:00 808 0 -4.47 Na6b8 Ka7xb8 g5g4 f3xg4 f4f3
6 00:00 1.530 0 0.00 Na6b8 Ka7xb8 Bd6c5 a5a6 Bc5d6 a6a7 Bd6e5
7 00:00 3.012 0 0.00 Na6b8 Ka7xb8 Bd6c5 a5a6 Bc5d6 a6a7 Bd6e5
8 00:00 5.025 0 0.00 Na6b8 Ka7xb8 Bd6c5 a5a6 Bc5d6 a6a7 Bd6e5
9 00:00 9.321 0 0.00 Na6b8 Ka7xb8 Bd6c5 a5a6 Bc5d6 a6a7 Bd6e5
10 00:00 18.800 0 +2.11 Na6b8 Ka7xb8 Bd6c5 a5a6 Bc5b6 a6a7 g5g4 f3xg4
f4f3 g4g5 f3f2 g5g6 f2f1Q g6g7 Qf1c4 g7g8Q+ Qc4xg8
11 00:00 32.773 0 +2.11 Na6b8 Ka7xb8 Bd6c5 a5a6 Bc5b6 a6a7 g5g4 f3xg4
f4f3 g4g5 f3f2 g5g6 f2f1Q g6g7 Qf1c4 g7g8Q+ Qc4xg8
12 00:01 103.558 0 +0.68 Na6b8 Ka7xb8 Bd6c5 a5a6 Bc5b6 a6a7 g5g4 f3xg4
f4f3 g4g5 f3f2 g5g6 f2f1Q g6g7 Bb6xa7+ Kb8xa7 Qf1a1+ Ka7b8 Qa1xg7 Kb8a7 Qg7d4+
Ka7b8
13 00:01 135.909 0 +4.48 Na6b8 Ka7xb8 Bd6c5 a5a6 Bc5b6 a6a7 g5g4 f3xg4
f4f3 g4g5 f3f2 g5g6 f2f1Q g6g7 Bb6xa7+ Kb8xa7 Qf1a1+ Ka7b8 Qa1xg7 Kb8a7 Qg7a1+
Ka7b8 Qa1e5 Kb8a7 Qe5c5+ Ka7b8 Qc5xc6
14 00:01 168.082 0 +6.50 Na6b8 Ka7xb8 Bd6c5 a5a6 Bc5b6 a6a7 g5g4 f3xg4
f4f3 g4g5 f3f2 g5g6 f2f1Q g6g7 Bb6xa7+ Kb8xa7 Qf1a1+ Ka7b8 Qa1xg7 Kb8a7 Qg7a1+
Ka7b8 Qa1e5 Kb8a7 Qe5c5+ Ka7b8 Qc5xc6 Kb8a7 Qc6c5+ Ka7b8 Kd8xd7
15 00:01 235.446 0 +6.12 Na6b8 Ka7xb8 Bd6c5 a5a6 Bc5b6 a6a7 g5g4 f3xg4
f4f3 g4g5 f3f2 g5g6 f2f1Q g6g7 Bb6xa7+ Kb8xa7 Qf1a1+ Ka7b8 Qa1xg7 Kb8a7 Qg7a1+
Ka7b8 Qa1e5 Kb8a7 Qe5c5+ Ka7b8 Qc5xc6 Kb8a7 Qc6a4+ Ka7b8 Qa4xd7 Kb8a7
16 00:01 332.376 150.846 +6.93 Na6b8 Ka7xb8 Bd6c5 a5a6 Kd8e7 Kb8xc7
Bc5d6+ Kc7c8 g5g4 b7b8Q Bd6xb8 Kc8xb8 g4xf3 d7d8Q+ Ke7xd8 a6a7 f3f2 Kb8b7 f2f1Q
Kb7b8 Qf1b5+ Ba8b7 Qb5e5+ c6c7+ Qe5xc7+ Kb8a8
17+ 00:02 348.358 150.846 +M32 Na6b8 Ka7xb8 Bd6c5 a5a6 Bc5b6 a6a7 g5g4
f3xg4 f4f3 g4g5 f3f2 g5g6 f2f1Q g6g7 Bb6xa7+ Kb8xa7 Qf1a1+ Ka7b8 Qa1xg7 Kb8a7
Qg7a1+ Ka7b8 Qa1e5 Kb8a7 Qe5c5+ Ka7b8 Qc5xc6 Kb8a7 Qc6a4+ Ka7b8 Qa4xd7 Kb8a7
17 00:05 2.338.044 448.343 +M32 Na6b8 Ka7xb8 Bd6c5 a5a6 Bc5b6 a6a7 g5g4
f3xg4 f4f3 g4g5 f3f2 g5g6 f2f1Q g6g7 Bb6xa7+ Kb8xa7 Qf1a1+ Ka7b8 Qa1xg7 Kb8a7
Qg7a1+ Ka7b8 Qa1e5 Kb8a7 Qe5c5+ Ka7b8 Qc5xc6 Kb8a7 Qc6a4+ Ka7b8 Qa4xd7 Kb8a7
18 01:01 30.067.500 641.127 +M32 Na6b8 Ka7xb8 Bd6c5 a5a6 Bc5b6 a6a7 g5g4
f3xg4 f4f3 g4g5 f3f2 g5g6 f2f1Q g6g7 Bb6xa7+ Kb8xa7 Qf1a1+ Ka7b8 Qa1xg7 Kb8a7
Qg7a1+ Ka7b8 Qa1e5 Kb8a7 Qe5c5+ Ka7b8 Qc5xc6 Kb8a7 Qc6a4+ Ka7b8 Qa4xd7 Kb8a7
19 02:36 80.622.544 535.271 +M32 Na6b8 Ka7xb8 Bd6c5 a5a6 Bc5b6 a6a7 g5g4
f3xg4 f4f3 g4g5 f3f2 g5g6 f2f1Q g6g7 Bb6xa7+ Kb8xa7 Qf1a1+ Ka7b8 Qa1xg7 Kb8a7
Qg7a1+ Ka7b8 Qa1e5 Kb8a7 Qe5c5+ Ka7b8 Qc5xc6 Kb8a7 Qc6a4+ Ka7b8 Qa4xd7 Kb8a7
20 07:34 246.094.616 540.813 +M32 Na6b8 Ka7xb8 Bd6c5 a5a6 Bc5b6 a6a7 g5g4
f3xg4 f4f3 g4g5 f3f2 g5g6 f2f1Q g6g7 Bb6xa7+ Kb8xa7 Qf1a1+ Ka7b8 Qa1xg7 Kb8a7
Qg7a1+ Ka7b8 Qa1e5 Kb8a7 Qe5c5+ Ka7b8 Qc5xc6 Kb8a7 Qc6a4+ Ka7b8 Qa4xd7 Kb8a7
1/26/2006 5:05:26 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:15:00, Rated time: 15:00
0 of 1 matching moves
1/26/2006 5:05:27 PM, Total time: 12:15:04 AM
Rated time: 15:00 = 900 Seconds
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