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Subject: Re: Topalov style computer chess?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 21:30:42 01/26/06

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On January 27, 2006 at 00:16:35, Tim George wrote:

>On January 26, 2006 at 17:50:15, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On January 26, 2006 at 17:41:37, Derek Paquette wrote:
>>
>>>On January 26, 2006 at 17:19:43, bryan wrote:
>>>
>>>>With Topalov showing that he will often exchange rooks for knights or bishops,
>>>>would a chess engine ever choose to make such sacrifices?  Are the piece values
>>>>locked at the core of the evaluation function, or would it be common to lower
>>>>the value of a rook bewlow that of a bishop or knight depending on the position?
>>>> Specifically, would a computer ever play 18.Rxe4 as Topalov did against
>>>>Aronian?
>>>
>>>I read this post and thought for a minute about which programs might be doing it
>>>already, then I thought...even if no program does this, Topolov can't beat any
>>>of the top 10 programs on the SSDF in a match anyway, so it doesn't matter.
>>
>>
>>We do not know that he cannot beat them in a match.
>>This is only a speculation.
>>
>>Note also that Fritz9 and rybka can find the sacrifice after enough time.
>>
>>>Maybe playing like Topolov is a weakness...?
>>
>>No
>>
>>I suspect that topalov learned some good ideas from analyzing positions with
>>chess programs.
>>
>>Uri
>
>Since Kaspy could not beat Deep Fritz 8 in a match, it's unlikely that Topalov
>who is weaker then garry could do it.

No proof that topalov of today is weaker than kasparov of the time of deep
fritz8.

Uri



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