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Subject: Re: Topalov style computer chess?

Author: Derek Paquette

Date: 06:39:51 01/27/06

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On January 26, 2006 at 17:50:15, Uri Blass wrote:

>On January 26, 2006 at 17:41:37, Derek Paquette wrote:
>
>>On January 26, 2006 at 17:19:43, bryan wrote:
>>
>>>With Topalov showing that he will often exchange rooks for knights or bishops,
>>>would a chess engine ever choose to make such sacrifices?  Are the piece values
>>>locked at the core of the evaluation function, or would it be common to lower
>>>the value of a rook bewlow that of a bishop or knight depending on the position?
>>> Specifically, would a computer ever play 18.Rxe4 as Topalov did against
>>>Aronian?
>>
>>I read this post and thought for a minute about which programs might be doing it
>>already, then I thought...even if no program does this, Topolov can't beat any
>>of the top 10 programs on the SSDF in a match anyway, so it doesn't matter.
>
>
>We do not know that he cannot beat them in a match.
>This is only a speculation.
>
>Note also that Fritz9 and rybka can find the sacrifice after enough time.
>
>>Maybe playing like Topolov is a weakness...?
>
>No
>
>I suspect that topalov learned some good ideas from analyzing positions with
>chess programs.
>
>Uri

Topolov finished below the programs in Man vs Machine, Kasp can't beat them,
Kram can't beat them, Bareev can't beat them, and programs are just getting
stronger, if you were a betting man, would you bet on historical evidence such
as what i just said or on your gut instinct?



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