Author: Mike Byrne
Date: 10:13:55 01/27/06
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On January 27, 2006 at 08:36:00, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On January 27, 2006 at 07:24:54, Mike Byrne wrote: > >>On January 27, 2006 at 00:31:43, Joseph Ciarrochi wrote: >> >>>The CCC does not seem to have as much interest in talking about Fritz 9, >>>compared to other chess engines (Rybka, fruit 2.2.1, and hiarcs ). I wonder why >>>this is? Fritz 9 seems to be one of the few programs that consistently gives >>>rybka some problems and is probably the number 2 or 3 engine on a single >>>processor. It's pretty darn strong. >>> >>> >>>Perhaps here are some reasons for people not talking so much about fritz >>> >>>1) people don't like fritz gui and often don't own it >>>2) Fritz and chessbase have dominated for so long that people love to hate them >>>and cheer against them >>>3) fritz is a big corprate power, and the programers for rybka and fruit are >>>brilliant individuals challenging the corporation >>> >>>or am i way off base? >> >>The answer is simple - people post what they want to post about. > > >The answer is too simple and almost wrong therefore. > Simplicity doesn't make it worng. People post what they want to post - you disagree? > > >>I think Fritz >>is a well respected engine that has been around a long time and always near the >>top of the charts. IMO, it is one those rare engines that was near the top 12- >>13 years ago and it is still near the top, i.e., it has kept with the changes in >>chess programming. Fritz has always been known to provide very reliable pvs and >>play very sound. It is known for being avery difficult engine for humans (more >>so that others). > > >You see it yourself? It just doesnt make sense to compare apples and oranges. >Fritz was never intended to become first place in a engine vs engine ranking. >The main priority was the quality offered to the chessplayers. Chessplayers are >usually not the most interested testers of engine vs engine autoplayed games... >Sigh. No disagreement - certain authors have always targeted hunman opponents - Hiarcs, Crafty, Rebel Fritz etc. > >To Rybka in difference to Fritz I must add that normally the charta here forbids >advertising. All the public beta-testing IS advertisement. It's not evil per se >but it becomes a scandal if programs like - say - Gandalf are neglected. I never >mentioned Gandalf before but I must speak it out. The whole campaign here is a) >a violation of the charta and b) the neglection of more peaceful and reserved >programmers like the ones of Gandalf or say The King. Or of The Thinker. > >You cant just "explain" everything with the will of the masses. Otherwise we end >in something well different that a democratic CCC. If we could control the >identities one would get the neccessary result that would prove the intention of >advertisement. - Now that is why nobody speaks about Fritz although the >commercial interests are well existing to advertise for Fritz but that wouldnt >be tolerated. That's it, if we look at it a bit deeper. My posts are nothing about advertising - Rybka is just breath of new life in chess engines --- I'm sorry you feel that way.
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