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Subject: Re: Rybka EGTB example

Author: Jouni Uski

Date: 12:11:21 01/27/06

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On January 27, 2006 at 14:09:22, George Tsavdaris wrote:

>On January 27, 2006 at 13:49:15, G. R. Morton wrote:
>
>>On January 27, 2006 at 12:27:46, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>8/7p/8/p4p2/5K2/Bpk3P1/4P2P/8 w - - 0 1
>>>
>>>1.Kxf5 b2 2.Bxb2+ Kxb2 3.e4 a4 4.e5 a3 5.e6 a2 6.e7 a1Q 7.e8Q Qf1+
>>>  ±  (1.25)   Depth: 17   00:00:26  2132kN
>>>1.g4 fxg4 2.e4 Kc4 3.Kxg4 Kb5 4.Kg5 Ka4 5.Bc1 Kb5 6.e5 a4 7.e6 Kc6
>>>  +-  (4.09)   Depth: 17   00:00:59  6451kN
>>>1.g4 fxg4 2.e4 Kc4 3.Kxg4 Kb5 4.Kg5 Ka4 5.Bc1 Kb4 6.e5 a4 7.e6 a3
>>>  +-  (5.33)   Depth: 18   00:01:06  8045kN
>>>
>>>I have one CD = 700 MB tablebases.
>>>
>>>Jouni
>>
>>Very interesting, it's endgame positions like these that make even the best
>>engines look so dumb - a human sub-expert can easily see that g4 is the tempo
>>move. However, Shredder 8 has no problem here. Presumably Rybka versions will
>>eventually find quickly such endgame moves.
>>
>Do you want more quickly than 59 seconds.....? :-)

Then Shredder 9.1 UCI:

1.g4
  ±  (0.82)   Depth: 13/29   00:00:01  234kN, tb=49
1.g4
  ±  (1.17)   Depth: 13/29   00:00:01  247kN, tb=50
1.g4 fxg4 2.e4 a4 3.e5 b2
  ±  (1.17)   Depth: 13/29   00:00:01  267kN, tb=55
1.g4 fxg4
  +-  (1.42)   Depth: 14/29   00:00:01  341kN, tb=82
1.g4 fxg4 2.e4 a4 3.e5 b2 4.Bxb2+ Kxb2 5.e6 a3 6.e7 a2 7.e8Q a1Q 8.Qh8+ Kb1
9.Qxa1+ Kxa1 10.Kxg4 Kb2
  +-  (1.46)   Depth: 14/30   00:00:01  372kN, tb=83
1.g4 fxg4 2.e4 a4 3.e5 b2 4.Bxb2+ Kxb2 5.e6 a3 6.e7 a2 7.e8Q a1Q 8.Qh8+ Kb1
9.Qxa1+ Kxa1 10.Kxg4 Kb2 11.h4
  ±  (1.37)   Depth: 15/34   00:00:01  535kN, tb=140
1.g4 fxg4
  ±  (1.12)   Depth: 16/34   00:00:02  786kN, tb=227
1.g4 fxg4 2.e4 a4 3.e5 b2 4.Bxb2+ Kxb2 5.e6 a3 6.e7 a2 7.e8Q a1Q 8.Qh8+ Kb1
9.Qxa1+ Kxa1 10.Kxg4 Kb2 11.h4 Kc3
  ±  (1.12)   Depth: 16/35   00:00:02  835kN, tb=291
1.g4 fxg4 2.e4 a4 3.e5 b2 4.Bxb2+ Kxb2 5.e6 a3 6.e7 a2 7.e8Q a1Q 8.Qh8+ Kb1
9.Qxa1+ Kxa1 10.Kxg4 Kb2 11.h4 Kc3 12.Kg5
  ±  (1.06)   Depth: 17/37   00:00:02  1339kN, tb=541
1.g4 fxg4
  ±  (1.31)   Depth: 18/39   00:00:04  1902kN, tb=883
1.g4 fxg4 2.e4 a4 3.e5 b2 4.Bxb2+ Kxb2 5.e6 g3 6.hxg3 a3 7.e7 a2 8.e8Q a1Q
9.Qh8+
  +-  (1.80)   Depth: 18/39   00:00:05  2260kN, tb=1139
1.g4 fxg4
  +-  (2.05)   Depth: 19/41   00:00:07  3139kN, tb=1949
1.g4 fxg4
  +-  (2.55)   Depth: 19/42   00:00:08  3434kN, tb=2030
1.g4 fxg4 2.e4 Kd4 3.e5 Kd5 4.Kf5
  +-  (6.05)   Depth: 19/42   00:00:12  4726kN, tb=3340

Jouni



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