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Subject: [Moderation] Just a few words.

Author: Peter Skinner

Date: 13:24:08 01/27/06


Hello everyone,

Since beginning my term as a moderator I have seen many things happen here on
the CCC that I have some issues with.

With any bulletin board on the internet you will find groups of people that
stick together based on similar ideas, friendships, point of origin on our
lovely planet and so on..

I have _many_ issues I would like to talk about, but here are the main ones:

1. General treatment of members.
2. Hijacking threads based on personal agendas.
3. Technical vs. non-technical.

-General treatment of Membership-

In my moderation philosophy I made it very clear that there are _many_ different
type of people here with _many_ varying levels of technical expertise, and
_many_ levels of understanding the English language.

Since becoming a moderator I have removed several posts where users are simply
attacking others for no other reason that a misunderstanding over what ideas are
trying to be conveyed. This is a problem, and a serious one.

I am very proud to be part of such a diverse group of people trying to show
excitement, interest, and knowledge in one of my favorite areas. I am disgusted
in how some users treat newer members, or members that are trying to convey a
particular message/idea relating to an idea or engine simply based that they are
not looking at the information provided but rather the way it was presented. On
an even worse extreme, people simply attack the person regardless whether the
information is accurate or they have an opinion about the data.

As a group we have to be more conscious of the fact idea it is ok to attack an
idea, but not the person presenting it or discussing it. This is something I am
hoping this little spiel will help with. Do this.. and this place will become
more interesting than it ever was in the past.

-Hijacking of threads-

If you have a personal issue with someone, do not insert it into every thread
they make. This is not going to be tolerated any more.

If you can not have the maturity level to sustain an intelligent conversation
with someone, do not post in their threads or to anything they say.

The moderation team get soooo many emails about this person calling this person
names and then because the other person retaliates, we get the reverse emails
stating it has been done. This happened this weekend when I was the only
moderator available for the majority of the time, and I just ignored it. I let
the children play and it died out. And I do mean children. You know who you
are..

If you hijack a thread for no other reason than to put your elbow in someone
else's rib, then expect a harsh and quick response from the mod team. We are not
babysitters. They get paid.. we don't. I hope this is understood.

-Technical vs. Non-Technical-

Recently I removed a thread of Chandler's that said "Rybka sucks for analysis"
that provided no proof of that. Just the topic, some Shredder output and a SLEW
of complaints. Had he stated "Rybka has issues as an analysis tool" and provided
his proof, there would have been no way his post would have been removed. I
would have probably joined in on the conversation to see where it was going and
what he had to offer. I enjoy a good conversation and Chandler does bring up
good points, but he has.. umm.. topic problems :)

To often a non-technical person will inject his opinion or ask a question and
the more technical people respond very brashly and harshly. This has to stop.

Do we need to come up with a glossary of terms that will be allowed and not be
allowed? Have a certain number of people enlisted as the technical help desk?
Hand out cookies when someone answers politely?

Just because your knowledge in a general area is good or great, it does not mean
everyone around you will understand what you are saying or conveying. The same
goes for the other direction. Less knowledgeable individuals may have to explain
more detail what they are trying to say or raise a question about.

Topic formation has a great deal to do with how the thread will be received and
the people within the thread interacted with. A good formatted topic will yield
more information and better responses. I.e..:

"Rybka sucks!" = Troll thread, and probably one I will remove.
"Rybka has an endgame bug - details" = Thread many people will look at,.
Especially if you provide details and evidence.

Do you see the difference and how they two topics would be viewed? Excellent :)

If we can work on these three issues, the CCC will become a great place once
again where 4 page threads of useful data will appear. People will get into
great heated arguments, share ideas, and in the end probably still disagree but
they will agree to disagree.

Sound fun? Well only all of you can make it happen.

I welcome you all to chime in and give your thoughts as this IS your club.

Peter



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