Author: John Merlino
Date: 18:03:40 01/28/06
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On January 28, 2006 at 19:40:08, chandler yergin wrote: >On January 28, 2006 at 17:30:32, John Merlino wrote: > >>On January 28, 2006 at 16:27:48, chandler yergin wrote: >> >>>Mark Twain once said.. "There are Lies, Damn Lies and .. Statistics" >> >>And your post has all three, with the most obvious of the non-statistical >>variety being your use of the words "will win" below. > >I'm sorry.. ya lost me..What is non-statistical? >Please explain what you mean? >What is it you disagree with? >Thanks, >Chan Your statements are quoted: >>>Black cannot overcome this [White's "significant advantage with the first move], in fact Black cannot even equalize. If Black cannot equalize, how can Black score 45% of the time? >>>Whichever Human or Computer plays the Openings by ECO Classification >>>that are better for White will Win. Here is a game where Black played the Center Counter game, known to be better for White (White has historically scored around 58%), in which Black won (and therefore disproving your statement that if White plays an "Opening by ECO Classification that [is] better for White" then White will win. Note that person playing White was World Champion Anatoly Karpov and had an 85 ELO advantage, which should have increased his chance of scoring by about 11%. [Site "Montreal CAN"] [Date "1979.04.??"] [White "Karpov, Anatoly"] [Black "Larsen, Bent"] [Result "0-1"] [ECO "B01"] [WhiteELO "2705"] [BlackELO "2620"] 1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qa5 4.d4 Nf6 5.Bd2 Bg4 6.Be2 Bxe2 7.Ncxe2 Qb6 8.Nf3 Nbd7 9.O-O e6 10.c4 Be7 11.b4 O-O 12.a4 c6 13.Qc2 Qc7 14.Rfe1 b6 15.a5 Rfb8 16.a6 b5 17.c5 Nd5 18.Nc1 Re8 19.Nd3 Rad8 20.g3 Bf6 21.Re4 Nf8 22.h4 Rd7 23.Kg2 Red8 24.g4 Re8 25.g5 Bd8 26.Nfe5 Rde7 27.Bf4 Qc8 28.Bg3 f6 29.Nf3 Rf7 30.Qd2 fxg5 31.Nxg5 Rf5 32.Ra3 Ng6 33.Nf3 Ref8 34.Nfe5 Nxe5 35.Rxe5 Rf3 36.Ra1 Bxh4 37.Qe2 Bxg3 38.fxg3 Qd7 39.Qxf3 Rxf3 40.Kxf3 Nxb4 41.Rd1 Qxd4 42.Re4 Qd5 43.Nf2 Qh5+ 44.Kg2 Nd5 45.Rxe6 h6 46.Rd3 Kh7 47.Rf3 b4 48.g4 Qg5 49.Kg3 Qc1 50.Nh3 Qc4 51.g5 h5 52.Re8 h4+ 53.Kg2 b3 54.Rb8 Qe2+ 55.Nf2 Ne3+ 0-1 >>>Whichever Human or Computer plays the Openings by ECO Classification >>>that are better for Black will win. And here is a game where White played the Polish Opening, known to be better for Black (White has historically scored around 46%), in which White won (and therefore disproving your statement that if Black plays an "Opening by ECO Classification that [is] better for Black" then Black will win. [Site "Las Palmas ESP"] [Date "1974.04.??"] [White "Larsen, Bent"] [Black "Browne, Walter S"] [Result "1-0"] [ECO "A00"] [WhiteELO "2630"] [BlackELO "2575"] 1.b4 d5 2.Bb2 Bf5 3.Nf3 e6 4.e3 Nf6 5.a3 c5 6.c4 cxb4 7.axb4 Nc6 8.Qa4 Be7 9.cxd5 exd5 10.Nd4 Bd7 11.b5 Nb4 12.Ba3 a5 13.Nc3 O-O 14.Be2 Ne4 15.O-O Nxd2 16.Rfd1 Nc4 17.Nxd5 Nxa3 18.Nxe7+ Qxe7 19.Qxa3 b6 20.Rd2 Rac8 21.Rad1 Rc7 22.h3 Rfc8 23.Qa1 g6 24.Nf3 Be8 25.Rd6 Qxd6 26.Rxd6 Rc1+ 27.Qxc1 Rxc1+ 28.Kh2 a4 29.Rxb6 a3 30.Rb8 Kf8 31.b6 a2 32.Bb5 Nc6 33.Bxc6 a1=Q 34.Rxe8+ Kg7 35.b7 Rb1 36.b8=Q Rxb8 37.Rxb8 Qa5 38.Rb7 Kf8 39.e4 Qc5 40.Bd5 f5 41.Ne5 1-0 And don't say that GM Larsen is the exception proving the rule.... :-) jm
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