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Subject: Re: Also no problem for Yace 0.99.87

Author: Mark R. Anderson

Date: 04:15:19 01/29/06

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Manfred,

Yes, Yace is known to have a good endgame (not the best, but good).  What's
impressive about the Rybka result Mike showed us is that the Rybka 13b engine
presently has (so I've heard) some, but relatively little endgame heuristics.
The fine quality of the Rybka 13b engine, plus the few added engame heuristics,
plus the EGTB capability have already produced some credible endgame results, in
my view.  When Rybka 14 comes out (or 1.2), I think Rybka will be a very fine
endgame analysis engine.  Good work, Vasik!

Mark A.

On January 29, 2006 at 04:00:33, Manfred Rosenboom wrote:

>[D]8/3R1P2/1ppP1p2/3r4/8/K7/p4k2/8 w - - 0 1
>
>Yace 0.99.87 (AMD Athlon 64 3500+):
>   1	00:00	          10	10.000	-2,47	f7f8Q a2a1Q+ Ka3b4
>   1	00:00	          16	16.000	-0,59	Ka3xa2
>   1	00:00	          27	27.000	-0,59	Ka3xa2
>   2	00:00	         101	101.000	-0,51	Ka3xa2 Rd5d2+ Ka2b3
>   2	00:00	         211	211.000	-0,51	Ka3xa2 Rd5d2+ Ka2b3
>   3	00:00	         511	63.875	-0,46	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 Ra5a8
>   3	00:00	         565	70.625	-0,46	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 Ra5a8
>   4	00:00	       1.515	168.333	-0,26	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 Ra5a8 Kb3c4
>   4	00:00	       1.614	179.333	-0,26	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 Ra5a8 Kb3c4
>   5	00:00	       4.196	349.666	-0,35	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 Ra5a8 Rd7c7 c6c5
>   5	00:00	       4.519	376.583	-0,35	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 Ra5a8 Rd7c7 c6c5
>  6/12	00:00	      10.425	336.290	-0,03	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 Ra5a8 Rd7c7 c6c5
>Kb3c4
>  6/14	00:00	      11.145	348.281	-0,03	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 Ra5a8 Rd7c7 c6c5
>Kb3c4
>  7/14	00:00	      30.351	505.850	+0,01	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 Ra5a8 Rd7c7 c6c5
>d6d7 Ra8f8 Kb3c4
>  7/18	00:00	      32.846	513.218	+0,01	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 Ra5a8 Rd7c7 c6c5
>d6d7 Ra8f8 Kb3c4
>  8/18+	00:00	      71.078	664.280	+0,41	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 Ra5a8 Rd7c7 Ra8a7
>f7f8Q Ra7xc7
>  8/18	00:00	      86.810	667.769	+0,79	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 Ra5a8 Rd7c7 c6c5
>Rc7b7 f6f5 Rb7xb6
>  8/19	00:00	      92.700	630.612	+0,79	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 Ra5a8 Rd7c7 c6c5
>Rc7b7 f6f5 Rb7xb6
>  9/19	00:00	     167.571	754.824	+0,78	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 Ra5a8 Rd7c7 c6c5
>Rc7b7 b6b5 Rb7xb5 Ra8f8
>  9/25	00:00	     182.172	749.679	+0,78	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 Ra5a8 Rd7c7 c6c5
>Rc7b7 b6b5 Rb7xb5 Ra8f8
> 10/25+	00:00	     363.578	941.911	+1,18	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 Ra5a8 Rd7c7 c6c5
>d6d7 Kf2e3 Rc7c8 Ke3d3 d7d8Q+ Kd3e3
> 10/27+	00:00	     486.868	1.072.396	+2,18	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 Ra5a8 Rd7e7 c6c5
>Re7e8 b6b5 f7f8Q f6f5
> 10/27	00:00	     662.096	1.159.537	+6,36	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 Ra5a8 Rd7e7 Ra8f8
>d6d7 b6b5 Re7e8 Rf8xf7 d7d8Q Kf2g1
> 10/27	00:00	     696.156	1.173.956	+6,36	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 Ra5a8 Rd7e7 Ra8f8
>d6d7 b6b5 Re7e8 Rf8xf7 d7d8Q Kf2g1
> 11/27	00:00	   1.022.358	1.268.434	+6,59	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 Ra5a8 Rd7e7 Ra8f8
>d6d7 b6b5 Re7e8 Rf8xf7 d7d8Q c6c5 Qd8d3
> 11/27	00:00	   1.096.304	1.285.233	+6,59	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 Ra5a8 Rd7e7 Ra8f8
>d6d7 b6b5 Re7e8 Rf8xf7 d7d8Q c6c5 Qd8d3
> 12/27+	00:01	   1.751.444	1.432.088	+6,99	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 Ra5a8 Rd7e7 Ra8f8
>d6d7 b6b5 Re7e8 Rf8xf7 d7d8Q b5b4 Kb3xb4 f6f5
> 12/30	00:02	   3.095.495	1.483.227	+7,56	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 Ra5b5+ Kb3c4
>Rb5c5+ Kc4d4 f6f5 f7f8Q Rc5d5+ Kd4c3 Rd5c5+ Kc3b4 Rc5b5+ Kb4c4 Rb5c5+ Kc4b3
>Rc5b5+ Kb3c3 Rb5c5+ Kc3d4 Rc5d5+ Kd4c3 c6c5
> 12/33	00:02	   3.429.866	1.479.028	+7,56	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 Ra5b5+ Kb3c4
>Rb5c5+ Kc4d4 f6f5 f7f8Q Rc5d5+ Kd4c3 Rd5c5+ Kc3b4 Rc5b5+ Kb4c4 Rb5c5+ Kc4b3
>Rc5b5+ Kb3c3 Rb5c5+ Kc3d4 Rc5d5+ Kd4c3 c6c5
> 13/33	00:05	   8.031.954	1.551.169	+7,38	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 f6f5 Rd7a7 Ra5xa7
>f7f8Q Kf2g3 Qf8xf5 Ra7a8 d6d7 b6b5 Qf5g6+ Kg3h3 Qg6e6+ Kh3h4 d7d8Q+ Ra8xd8
>Qe6f6+ Kh4h3 Qf6xd8 c6c5
> 13/33	00:05	   8.923.927	1.554.691	+7,38	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 f6f5 Rd7a7 Ra5xa7
>f7f8Q Kf2g3 Qf8xf5 Ra7a8 d6d7 b6b5 Qf5g6+ Kg3h3 Qg6e6+ Kh3h4 d7d8Q+ Ra8xd8
>Qe6f6+ Kh4h3 Qf6xd8 c6c5
> 14/35	00:13	  20.518.447	1.576.523	+7,64	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 Ra5b5+ Kb3c4
>Rb5c5+ Kc4d4 f6f5 Rd7a7 Rc5d5+ Kd4c3 Rd5xd6 f7f8Q Rd6d5 Ra7f7 Kf2g2 Rf7xf5
>Rd5xf5 Qf8xf5 Kg2h2 Qf5g6
> 14/35	00:14	  22.344.974	1.569.500	+7,64	Ka3xa2 Rd5a5+ Ka2b3 Ra5b5+ Kb3c4
>Rb5c5+ Kc4d4 f6f5 Rd7a7 Rc5d5+ Kd4c3 Rd5xd6 f7f8Q Rd6d5 Ra7f7 Kf2g2 Rf7xf5
>Rd5xf5 Qf8xf5 Kg2h2 Qf5g6
> 15/37-	00:29	  45.841.645	1.553.901	+7,24	Ka3xa2 f6f5 Rd7a7 Rd5e5 f7f8N
> 15/37-	00:30	  47.017.430	1.555.272	+6,24	Ka3xa2 f6f5 Rd7a7 Rd5e5 f7f8N
> 15/37	00:33	  51.522.453	1.558.830	+1,26	Ka3xa2 f6f5 f7f8R Rd5a5+ Ka2b1 Ra5b5+
>Kb1c2 Rb5c5+ Kc2d3 Rc5d5+ Kd3c3 Rd5c5+ Kc3b2 Rc5b5+ Kb2a2 Rb5a5+ Ka2b1 Ra5b5+
>Kb1c2 Rb5c5+ Kc2d3 Rc5d5+ Kd3c3 Rd5c5+ Kc3b2 Rc5b5+ Kb2a2 Rb5a5+
> 15/37+	00:45	  68.734.926	1.513.651	+1,27	Ka3b2 a2a1Q+ Kb2xa1 Rd5a5+ Ka1b2
>Ra5a8
> 15/37	01:13	 102.598.442	1.390.599	+7,72	Ka3b2 Rd5a5 Kb2a1 Ra5a8 Rd7e7 Ra8f8
>d6d7 c6c5 Re7e8 Rf8xf7 d7d8Q b6b5 Qd8d2+ Kf2g1 Qd2xa2 Rf7g7
> 15/37	01:14	 102.833.862	1.389.571	+7,72	Ka3b2 Rd5a5 Kb2a1 Ra5a8 Rd7e7 Ra8f8
>d6d7 c6c5 Re7e8 Rf8xf7 d7d8Q b6b5 Qd8d2+ Kf2g1 Qd2xa2 Rf7g7
> 16/39	01:57	 160.024.085	1.359.558	+7,84	Ka3b2 a2a1Q+ Kb2xa1 Rd5a5+ Ka1b2
>Ra5b5+ Kb2c3 Rb5c5+ Kc3d3 f6f5 Rd7a7 Rc5d5+ Kd3c3 Rd5xd6 f7f8Q Rd6d5 Ra7f7 f5f4
>Rf7xf4+ Kf2e3 Rf4f3+ Ke3e2 Qf8f4
> 16/39	02:11	 178.342.129	1.357.514	+7,84	Ka3b2 a2a1Q+ Kb2xa1 Rd5a5+ Ka1b2
>Ra5b5+ Kb2c3 Rb5c5+ Kc3d3 f6f5 Rd7a7 Rc5d5+ Kd3c3 Rd5xd6 f7f8Q Rd6d5 Ra7f7 f5f4
>Rf7xf4+ Kf2e3 Rf4f3+ Ke3e2 Qf8f4



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