Author: chandler yergin
Date: 02:17:43 01/30/06
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On January 30, 2006 at 03:15:11, Peter Skinner wrote: >So out of 2 million games played, _this_ is the only game that this position can >be reached from? It's the only one it WAS Reached from! This position you gave.. The Fen was THIS Game! > >Are you sure? (This is a loaded question btw) Of course I'm sure! > >I cleaned the source just for the sake of comments.. > >[Event "Hannover"] >[Site "Hannover"] >[Date "1926.??.??"] >[Round "2"] >[White "Von Gottschall, Hermann"] >[Black "Nimzowitsch, Aaron"] >[Result "0-1"] >[ECO "C00"] >[EventDate "1926.??.??"] >[Annotator "Huebner,R"] >[PlyCount "118"] >[Source "ChessBase"] > >1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Bd3 c5 4.c3 dxe4 5.Bxe4 Nf6 6.Bf3 Nbd7 7.Ne2 Be7 8.O-O O-O >9.Be3 cxd4 10.cxd4 Nb6 11.Nbc3 Qd7 12.Rc1 Rd8 13.Qb3 Nfd5 14.Nxd5 Nxd5 15.Bxd5 >Qxd5 16.Qxd5 Rxd5 17.Nc3 Ra5 18.Rfd1 Bb4 19.a3 Bxc3 20.Rxc3 Bd7 21.Rc5 Rxc5 >22.dxc5 Bc6 23.f3 f6 24.Kf2 Kf7 25.Rd4 a5 26.g3 a4 27.f4 h5 28.h3 Rh8 29.Rd1 Kg6 >30.Rd4 Kf5 31.Bd2 Rf8 32.Be1 e5 33.fxe5 fxe5 34.Rh4 g5 35.Rb4 Ke6+ 36.Ke2 e4 >37.Bf2 Rf3 38.Rb6 Ke5 39.Rb4 Kd5 40.h4 gxh4 41.gxh4 Rh3 42.Rd4+ Ke5 43.Rd8 Bd5 >44.Re8+ Be6 45.Rd8 Kf4 46.Rf8+ Bf5 47.Rf7 Rh2 48.Re7 Bg4+ 49.Ke1 Kf3 50.Rf7+ Kg2 >51.Kd2 Kf1 52.Ke3 Bf3 53.Bg3 Rxb2 54.Bd6 Rb3+ 55.Kd4 Kf2 56.Rg7 e3 57.Bg3+ Kf1 >58.Rf7 e2 59.Re7 Bc6 0-1 > >I think for once Chandler you better just admit you are wrong, and learn that >engines _can_ be optimized from a position and not an ECO classification >database. Every Tournament game played since recorded time is in Databases, and ALL are Classified by Informant ECO Classification! EVERY ONE! Engines can be 'tweaked' in many ways.. Once a game, is played and in a Database it is "Classifed" by Informant ECO classification. That's how Databases work. >Why do you think people run matches based on the Nunn positions as a starting >point? Nunn positions are from Games.. I have the games, I can Post the games. > >For you to distinctly state that the above game is the _only_ game that the >position could be arrived from is complete horse cocky.. How did I 'distinctly state' that the game is the _only_game that the position could be arrived at? You are shouting at me like Hyatt does.. Please answer! I stated nothing! I presented the game the position came from. You asked for an ECO Classification.. I gave you whole thing. Guess you thought I couldn't do it? You were just trying to embarrass me, and it backfired! Shame.. and you know it. No One in over 2 million games has played that game but the one I posted! To say 'could be' arrived at is theoretical. It has NOT been arrived at. You asked.. I presented. Now.. in light of the evidence, you want to take your marbles and go home. That's pouting Peter.. You told me if I ever presented facts and evidence my voice WOULD be heard. I have done so... It's the only game that the position has been played in over 2 million games. If someone else plays that same game it will be included in the Database and I would have listed it also. > >I think you are simply arguing this point just to argue.. nothing more. Nonsense Peter. Really.. Chessbase is a Program that manages Databases. Every Player knows that, and knows how to operate the software. > >So I will exit it, as we are not going to gain any ground with you taking a >position that simply does not agree with fact. Sorry you feel that way.. I give you Facts, & Statistics. They are what they are. You may come to different conclusions or have another 'interpretation', but you cannot argue what the Facts are. > >Peter
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