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Subject: Re: Here: It is a mate in 18

Author: Mike Byrne

Date: 09:21:21 01/30/06

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On January 30, 2006 at 11:56:20, chandler yergin wrote:

>On January 30, 2006 at 11:45:41, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On January 30, 2006 at 10:14:53, chandler yergin wrote:
>>
>>>On January 30, 2006 at 07:07:06, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 30, 2006 at 05:50:04, chandler yergin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 30, 2006 at 05:26:12, Mike S. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Paste the FEN string
>>>>>>
>>>>>>8/8/8/6N1/8/3kn3/4nKn1/8 b - - 0 1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>into that web page:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://chess.jaet.org/cgi-bin/dtx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Black to move, DTM (distance to mate) = 18
>>>>>
>>>>>Obviously NOT forced!  Keep trying.
>>>>>;)
>>>>>Chan
>>>>>
>>>>It's forced alright.  Not sure why you don't think it is.
>>>Analysis by Shredder 8:
>>>
>>>1...Nh4 2.Ne4 Ng4+ 3.Kf1 Ke3 4.Nd2 Nd4 5.Ke1 Kd3 6.Kd1 Ne3+ 7.Kc1 Nhg2
>>>-+  (-10.66)    Depth: 32/66   01:07:20  2431231kN, tb=49150885
>>>(,  30.01.2006)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>If Shredder can't find at Depth 32/66 it's not there.
>>>It has EGTB's too.
>>
>>I'll ask yet again.  Please stop jumping into threads where you don't have a
>>clue about the topic.
>>
>>A mate in 18 will typically need a maximum search depth of 36 plies to find it.
>>32 plies is less than 36 plies.  You didn't let shredder go deep enough to prove
>>there is no mate.  Even worse, since shredder uses forward pruning, there is no
>>telling how deep it might have to go to find that mate...
>>
>>I don't know why you keep jumping into random threads, and trying to argue a
>>point that has nothing to do with anything, offering evidence that is clearly
>>worthless.  It needs to stop.  Sooner rather than later...
>
>I had a logical reason to believe the position was not a Mate in 18.
>I did Shredder analysis to verify.
> Depth: 32/66   01:07:20  2431231kN, tb=49150885
>After tb access of over 49 million times it did not find a Mate.

Shredder must have a bug -- try contacting the author since it is forced and
Shredder can't see it.



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