Author: Drexel,Michael
Date: 04:58:37 02/01/06
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On February 01, 2006 at 05:50:19, Uri Blass wrote: >On February 01, 2006 at 04:42:56, Ryan B. wrote: > >>On February 01, 2006 at 02:17:40, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On February 01, 2006 at 01:50:23, Ryan B. wrote: >>> >>>>On January 31, 2006 at 23:07:08, walt irvin wrote: >>>> >>>>>in a rybka vs hydra match ,,,with rybka using a athlon 3800 12 game match 40 >>>>>moves in 2 hours what is the predicted score ??????????? >>>>> >>>>>mine is hydra 9/3 >>>>> >>>>>walter >>>> >>>>I think your prediction is very good. What I think many people fail to realize >>>>about Hydra is that it is a dedicated chess machine so it does not suffer the >>>>same overheads that PC chess engines have. Also Software optimized for just one >>>>exact platform can be very fast compared to traditional PC programs. >>>> >>>>Ryan >>> >>>I do not agree. >>> >>>By that logic Crafty with 8 processors can also beat Rybka with one processor >>>but it is probably not the case. >>> >>>The fact that hardware that is dedicated for one task has a potential advantage >>>does not prove that hydra is better. >>> >>>The facts are that Rybka is leading the CEGT list even if you consider only 32 >>>bits and not one of the better hardware participants. >>> >>>This is from the CEGT rating list. >>> >>>2 Rybka 1.01 Beta 13-13b 32-bit 2886 45 45 189 74.1 % 2704 28.6 % >>>6 Deep Shredder 9.12 x64 2CPU 2822 35 34 283 64.7 % 2717 31.1 % >>> >>>14 Shredder 9 2754 8 8 4776 63.3 % 2660 31.8 % >>>34 Crafty Cito 1.4.2 64-bit 2CPU 2695 59 58 106 63.7 % 2598 27.4 % >>> >>>As you can see even the combination of 64 bits and 2 cpu does not help when you >>>have inferior program. >>> >>>If 64 bits+2 cpu gives does the program 3 times faster then you have: >>> >>>Crafty*3<Shredder >>>Shredder*3<Rybka and in other words >>> >>>Crafty*9<Rybka. >>> >>>Uri >> >>I have no idea how anything I said had anything to do with crafty. Because we >>do have a Hydra sitting around to test out in our homes we go by what e believe. >> Based on what I have read here including posts by Chrilly and results of games >>Hydra has played in the past I believe Hydra to be much stronger than Rybka or >>any other known chess entity at this time. I hope to see Zappa take that crown >>in the future though. >> >>Ryan > >I wonder what are the results that you talk about? > >I know that in long time control hydra could not even get into the quarter final > >http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2446 > >I know that it lost in the first 2 correspondence games against GM nickel and >based on the report it has only equality in the third game. > >Note that commercial chess engines that are clearly weaker than rybka could beat >GM nickel 3.5-2.5 Doesn´t mean anything since Nickel choose two very weak opening lines in this match. The Modern game and the Caro Kann game are bad jokes. You can play such lines over the board against weaker opposition, not in correspondence games. Michael >for the games see >http://www.chessfriend.com/ > > >Uri
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