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Subject: Re: egtb and selling.. licensing issues. {More complete versions}

Author: Walter Faxon

Date: 23:23:55 02/01/06

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On February 02, 2006 at 01:57:51, Greg Simpson wrote:

>On February 02, 2006 at 00:20:11, Yakov Konoval wrote:
>
>>On February 01, 2006 at 23:48:59, David H. McClain wrote:
>>
>>>On February 01, 2006 at 20:52:47, Greg Simpson wrote:
>>>
>>>>The access code is certainly subject to copyright, since there are many ways to
>>>>express the ideas.  It is not so clear for the data files.  Perhaps the encoding
>>>>method could make them subject to copyright, or it might be patented.  I think
>>>>the uncompressed files would not be copyrightable, the same way raw address
>>>>lists aren't.  I'm still not a lawyer
>>>
>>>Greg
>>>
>>>Yes, the EGTBs you are referring to are "facts."  However, the authors took
>>>those facts and presented them in their own intellectual format.  You cannot
>>>sell them without their permission.
>>>
>>>Anyone is free to compile EGTBs in another format in any way they choose.  The
>>>facts don't become their property, but how they are presented is.  DHM
>>
>>In my opinion, EGTBs are "facts", discovered by author as books, music...
>>And the access code may be free but EGTBs may be not free - this is the
>>author's choice.
>>
>>You can invent a new format of EGTBs and convert old EGTBs to this format,
>>but again you need author's permission.
>>
>>YK
>
>They are not "facts" like music or books, more like facts like trig tables.  I
>feel confident no permission is required to publish these facts if they are
>converted to a different format.  I suspect, though I am not sure, that it is
>permissible to distribute them in their current format; either by not being
>under copyright or because permission was granted.  While not definitive, the
>lack of copyright notices with the tablebase files on Bob Hyatt's site is
>suggestive of this.


The layout of the streets in your city or town is not copyrightable but anyone's
map of them is.

Under U.S. law at least, intellectual material is "copyright at birth".  No
notice needed.

Get explicit written permission to use someone else's tables or generate your
own.  It's not that hard to understand.

Even if it were legal to "borrow" someone else's work, that wouldn't make it
fair.

-Walter (no lawyer I)



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