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Subject: Re: Very Interesting Position- Take A Look !

Author: Kurt Utzinger

Date: 13:31:39 02/02/06

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On February 02, 2006 at 16:13:02, George Speight wrote:

>
>Hi, Kurt. Maybe i am missing your point. But this took place in the game and i
>couldnt control his time. Juniors 33rd move as black busted him- i cant much see
>aworse choice. But the point of the matter is that after he made that move,
>Hiarcs evaluated his position as up over 7 points, and Junior still had it
>analyzed as even. Did he not see he was busted!  I went on and analyzed the
>position after 33 and let Junior have white, and he saw Bxe4 with no problem.
>But as black he seemed to have no clue he was finished. Regards, George

      Hi George
      I don't see the point. As explained, Junior 9 needs some more
      time than taken in the game to realize that 33...Be4 is wrong.
      On the other hand, after 34.Bxe4 Junior 9 soon sees that Black's
      position is busted (analysis below). It is quite normal that
      engines handle a specific position very differently and in
      extreme cases engine_A finds a move hundred (sometimes even
      thousand) times faster than engine_B. The example given by
      you is nothing special for me.
      Best regards
      Kurt

[D]8/1p1q3k/p3pBp1/4P2p/Pn2B3/1P2Q3/4K1PP/R2r4 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Junior 9:

34...Rxa1 35.Bxg6+ Kxg6 36.Qe4+ Kh6 37.Qxb4
  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
34...Rxa1!
  ³  (-0.49)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  14kN
34...Rxa1 35.Bxg6+ Kg8 36.Qg5 Qd1+ 37.Kf2 Qg1+ 38.Kg3 Qe1+ 39.Kh3 Qc3+ 40.Kh4
Rd1
  ³  (-0.65)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  531kN
34...Rxa1 35.Bxg6+ Kg8 36.Qg5 Qd1+ 37.Kf2 Qg4 38.Qxg4 hxg4 39.Kg3 Kf8 40.Kxg4
  ²  (0.44)   Depth: 12   00:00:04  5190kN
34...Rxa1 35.Bxg6+ Kg8 36.Bb1 Kf7 37.Qg5 Ra2+ 38.Ke1 Nd3+ 39.Bxd3 Ra1+ 40.Ke2
Ra2+ 41.Ke3 h4
  +-  (2.66)   Depth: 14   00:00:13  14902kN
34...Rxa1 35.Bxg6+ Kg8 36.Bb1 Kf7 37.Qg5 Ra2+ 38.Ke1 Qd2+ 39.Qxd2 Rxd2 40.Kxd2
b5
  +-  (6.16)   Depth: 17   00:00:57  56427kN

(Utzinger,  02.02.2006)




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