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Subject: Re: Crafty 16.6 is getting serious !

Author: Terry Presgrove

Date: 14:34:55 04/08/99

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On April 07, 1999 at 17:07:22, Jeremiah Penery wrote:

>On April 07, 1999 at 16:32:18, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>For anyone interested in Crafty engines.  The Crafty 16.6 has now played 58
>>games against Fritz 5.32 and Junior 5.0.  The score stands as:
>>
>>Junior 5.0 wins 16 to 14
>>Fritz 5.32 wins 16 to 12
>>
>>This may not be "Stastically significant" but it's heading in that direction.
>>These games were played at game/60.  Crafty used a Pentium II 333 Mhz/128 meg
>>and Fritz/Junior used a K6-2/350 Mhz with 128/64 meg hash tables.  Most games
>>were played with Crafty using 96 meg hash,8 meg hasp,10 meg cache.  Fritz used
>>128 meg hash and Fritz used 128 meg with a few games with only 64 meg hash.
>>
>>I have also played a large number of games at game/10.  Crafty is not as
>>impressive at this time control but has given Junior 5 a hard time.  Scores:
>>Crafty 16.6 wins  Comet B00     60.5 to 39.5
>>Junior 5.0 wins Crafty 16.6     71.5 to 62.5
>>Nimzo 99 wins  Crafty 16.6       52 to 30
>>Fritz 5.32 wins Crafty 16.6      93 to 39
>>This indicates that Crafty is only 25 points behind Junior but 150 points behind
>>Fritz.  I wish Bob were here to explain why Crafty now plays Junior 5.0 so good
>>now but no improvement shown with games against Nimzo/Fritz(At Blitz).  The
>>game/60 results indicate Crafty may play better at the long time controls and
>>should have a chance at time controls closer to tournament conditions.
>>Also I am wondering if this indicates a change in Bob's approach of tuning
>>Crafty to play better comp. vs comp. games vice Crafty vs humans which has
>>seemingly been his goal in the past.  Any comments on the above info ??
>>Jim Walker
>
>One reason Crafty may do better at slower games (and one thing that's always
>bugged me a bit, even if for no real reason :) is that almost all (if not ALL)
>of his testing is done on his super-fast Quad Xeon machine.  If Crafty plays
>better on his machine (at whatever time control), it is analogous to Crafty
>playing better on others' machines at a much longer time control.  In fast
>games, I've seen almost no improvement since 15.20, and I haven't played enough
>slow games to notice any difference.  The version that seems to do best on my
>machine [PII-300] on any time control is a slightly modified 15.20 that I have.
>It almost always beats 16.6, even against things like Dual PII-350 machines.
>These are just my observations, so please do not take this as definite truth. :)

 I've been playing crafty on ICC for about a year now and my tests show version
16.6 to be much stronger not only at slower time controls but bullet and blitz
also. Using Dan Corbits MS C++ compiled version Crafty v16.6 won a series of
matches against 16.5 up to and including 3 hour matches. The ratio of wins was
pretty consistant v16.6 defeating v16.5 13.5 to 6.5 in 3 hour matches. Also in 3
0, 5 0, 30 0 matches the ratio was averaging 14 to 6 in favor of v16.6. Running
on my k6-2 350 w/1meg cache.
TP
>
>>P.S. I wish Bob was here.
>
>I suspect he's just taking a break for a while, and that he'll come back sooner
>or later. :)
>
>Jeremiah



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