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Subject: Re: Peter Swidler on Computers - Finally Rolf Explains It All

Author: Vasik Rajlich

Date: 01:20:17 02/04/06

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On February 03, 2006 at 19:29:19, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>On February 03, 2006 at 17:02:46, Torstein Hall wrote:
>
>>On February 02, 2006 at 17:47:29, Vasik Rajlich wrote:
>>
>>>On February 02, 2006 at 07:06:23, Vikrant Malvankar wrote:
>>>
>>>>Peter Swidler on Computers
>>>>
>>>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2897
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Chess and computer: what is the interest other than the money?
>>>>
>>>>You mean playing against the computer?
>>>>
>>>>Yes.
>>>>
>>>>For me there is no particular interest. I never have been offered any serious
>>>>matches, but, in general, I think playing against computers is not very
>>>>exciting. Computers play so well these days that, to have a chance to win, you
>>>>have to work very hard – and work hard at things that probably will be counter
>>>>productive when you play against humans – so it probably will harm your chess a
>>>>little.
>>>>
>>>>If there is no financial incentive, I don’t see why there is any interest at
>>>>all. You can try competing with computers at calculation, but this is not very
>>>>wise, if you want to win. So, basically you have to train in playing closed
>>>>positions, keeping it as simple and as non-tactical as possible. It is possible
>>>>but there is not much fun in that. Playing the computer – I mean proper seven
>>>>hour games – I never saw any attraction in that, apart from money. So I don’t
>>>>really play against the computers. I use computers, as we all do, for help when
>>>>analyzing, as a background check. You analyze and have the computer running in
>>>>the background, to keep your analysis relatively blunder free. And that’s about
>>>>it. "
>>>
>>>You could also say "if there is no financial incentive to beat other humans, I
>>>don't see why there is any interest at all". It's what being a professional
>>>means.
>>>
>>>Vas
>>
>>It must be boring to be professional, if they only ever play for the love of
>>money. But I can not imagine that is the attitude most professional chess
>>players has. I even doubt Peter Svidler feel that way...
>>
>>Torstein
>
>If you and Vas speak about it, it cant be off-topic, so please let me
>participate. I wished you two wouldnt twist what Svidler said. He said that _if_
>you weaken your own chess against a computer THEN only the money could be the
>incentive to play -

If playing against computers paid the bills, then no doubt Mr. Swidler would be
worried that playing against humans might interfere with his computer-beating
skills. I don't see anything wrong with this - money is a big source of
motivation, although for many people it's not the only one.

Vas

because I ask you two non-grandmasters - in difference to
>you two a Grandmaster of Chess _can_ weaken his chess qualities; proof Peter
>Svidler! Of course for weaker players than a GM, this weakening is almost
>impossible. So that is the reason why so many non-GM are busy in computerchess.
>I cant remember when I weakened my play the last time, I get better and better
>every day!   ;)



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