Author: Dave Gomboc
Date: 22:32:44 04/08/99
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On April 08, 1999 at 16:18:26, Roger D Davis wrote: >On April 08, 1999 at 12:58:36, Dave Gomboc wrote: > >>On April 08, 1999 at 11:40:28, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>On April 08, 1999 at 06:42:03, Didzis Cirulis wrote: >>> >>>>* Maybe someone could post the games of this program, at least some 10? >>>> >>>>* Maybe there is a computer account for this program on FICS or ICS? >>>> >>>>Didzis Cirulis >>> >>>I have seen somewhere (here I guess) that people are not allowed to publish >>>games or even results of comp-comp games against CSTal. >>> >>> >>> Christophe >> >>They were even more careful. They say "game sequences", so you can't just pick >>an arbitrary position, and play 10 moves showing how well/poorly it plays from >>that position. >> >>I wonder how many consecutive positions constitutes a "game sequence"? Two? >>One? :-) .... :-( >> >>Frankly, I think the restriction is overly severe, but software developers can >>choose their license terms. People tend not to purchase products with licenses >>that they don't like. <shrug> Oxford is not the first company to refuse to >>allow computer-computer result reporting, and at least Chris has takes some time >>to justify it on his web site, so we know that this is a conscious decision, >>instead of some utter stupidity (for the latter, refer to the license for >>Borland Pascal 7.0). >> >>Dave Gomboc > >I haven't read the license agreement, but I did read the above from the CSTal >site. Seems to me, though, that you should be able to publish a single game, >since a single game is not a sequence of games. I interpret "game sequence" as a "sequence within a game", as opposed to "a sequence of games". >As for publishing a list of 10 moves, that would be a "move sequence," right? So >that would be publishable. > >My interpretation is that Chris wanted to prohibit people from getting lost in >playing hundreds of games with the autoplayer and then publishing them, since he >regards computer-computer games against "materialistic programs" a misguided >effort. Right. >So perhaps publishing a single game, or the move sequence from a single game, is >permissible under the licensing agreement. Otherwise, seems that he would have >just said "Nothing that CSTal II plays can ever be published," and just left it >at that...something simple and total, since Chris is a pretty straightforward >guy. Maybe, but do you want to have to email him and ask every time you'd like to post something? >But who knows. > >Roger I don't. If he is not banned (whoops! :) then maybe he can reply. Dave Gomboc
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