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Subject: Re: What's going on with ChessbaseĀ®???

Author: Barry Culp

Date: 09:55:19 02/07/06

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On February 07, 2006 at 12:23:37, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>On February 07, 2006 at 10:30:33, Bernardo Wesler wrote:
>
>>If u try to see the download or updates sections u will find old versions of
>>their engines..... fritz 7, 8, hiarcs 8, shredder 7, and so on.....
>>The only pages they update regularly are the news and the new products......
>>I can hardly think there was not even an update or patch of the engines fritz 8,
>>fritz9, shredder 8 and 9, haircs 9, etc......
>>In my opinion it is unfair..... We pay for not only a program but their
>>service.....
>>Moreover, they don't even issue a newsletter or newsgroup from where the
>>customers may be able to download any stuff.
>>Shame on ChessbaseĀ®; i am seriously considering not to buy more programs from
>>them.
>
>
>It's always a big surprise for me when a doctor of science makes nonsense
>allegations. The truth is that you are unaware of the update practice on
>playchess.com, but you use the internet! Of course there they even ask you if
>you want to have the newest patch. In other words you pretend to have these
>products and at the same time you show complete ignorance about their practice
>and this is why you make false assertions. The question is now who's unfair? And
>another question is "Shame on whom?" - on you? Your whole presentation isnt
>sound. What is really your problem?


The original poster was talking about engine updates. The playchess.com update
process is almost always just a GUI update. There is a difference. I can think
of one exception. An update to engine Junior 9 (to v 9.0.0.3) was done via the
playchess.com update process. Perhaps there are others. Two of the better UCI
engines, Rybka and Shredder 9 , both distribute updates / patches with
meaningful information for their customers. It would be nice if Chessbase would
do the same for engine / GUI / software updates. For example, there is  a well
documented bug in Fritz 9
(http://hornid.com/cgi-bin/ccc/topic_show.pl?pid=437180;hl=fritz9%20bug#pid437180)
Has anyone heard of a patch for this ?
I have not. There is also a problem with update 10 to Chessbase 9 (filter on
tournament names can cause repeated CB crashes) In discussing it online at
playchess.com I found 2 other users who had the same problem. I was forced to
back out the update.  I emailed CB with all the info. I haven't heard anything
from CB on this issue either.



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