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Subject: Re: WMCCC predictions (Is there a Human Computer out there?)

Author: Chris Carson

Date: 11:43:26 04/09/99

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On April 09, 1999 at 14:04:03, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote:

>On April 09, 1999 at 09:37:23, Chris Carson wrote:
>
>Hi Chris,
>	what do you mean by WMCCC? It usually stands for world MICRO computer chess
>championship. This year there will not be independent micro championship. The
>micro champion will be the entry that scores higher in the WCCC, world computer
>chess championship.
>
>>Well what are the early choices/rankings for Computer Chess Champion?
>>
>>what about Crafty, will Bob be there on a 32 processor experimental
>>Dec machine running at 1GHZ/processor?
>>
>
>The ICCA has published the list of participants for this year's WCCC. There are
>30 of them. Crafty is not going to play.
>
>>Also, I have been a long time believer that the Top Programs should
>>be allowed to compete for the World Chess Champion,
>
>I agree.
>
>>I wonder if any
>>Human GM's are up to the task of competing against the Programs this
>>year?
>
>I think many of them would be willing to play for a big amount of money.
>Remember that they are professional players and will not risk their reputation
>for nothing. While I do not like the situation, I fully understand their
>position.
>
>> How would Kamsky do?
>
>Kamsky should be very rusty by now. But after a few months of study and
>training, I think he can clobber any micro program and beat any program
>(including Deeper Blue) in a long match (20 games I am thinking).
>
>> I am interested in opinions, but I would
>>be more interested in real participants (GM Soltis maybe, got the
>>better of DBjr in one game).  I loved watching Chess Genius rip the
>>GM's in the old PCA events (Kaspy got beat, Anand held his own).
>>
>
>GM's do not play for free. And those events were rapid games, not standard time
>controls. A grandmaster will ask a lot more money for a match at a standard time
>control than for a rapid match.
>
>>My opinion, Human GM would do well (top 3 finish), but would wear
>>down and not win the whole thing (see Kaspy vs Deeper Blue).
>
>That depends on the number of games and their frequency. Playing only three
>games a week (as in the old world championship matches) humans can last very
>long (remember that 48 game match between Kasparov and Karpov).
>
>> Several
>>GM participants would be better, but should play each other as well.
>>I think this would be a marketing dream.  Intel and AMD where are you?
>>
>>Wish a GM or two would play and prove me wrong.  I would love to see
>>the Programs go down in flames, but my opinion is the GM's would be
>>left burning (or at least smoldering).  :)
>>
>
>Depends on which grandmasters you are thinking. It is very different to take ten
>2550 Elo grandmasters (of which there are plenty active) than the top ten
>players of the world.
>
>>Best Regards,
>>Chris Carson

Nice comments, well said.  I agree with what you have stated,  I will
miss Crafty this year.  A professional should be paid, we need sponsors.
I agree that the top 10 GM's would be better than 2550 GM's (although
2550 is a very strong player, would dust me).  Time controls are always
an issue and number of games a week is another issue.  I agree the tournament
format would need to be modified to be fair for all.  Thanks for your
opinion.

Best Regards,
Chris Carson



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