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Subject: Re: Rybka Beta 13b loses to a 17-year old( to gunther)

Author: Tony Thomas Karippa

Date: 08:14:36 02/09/06

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On February 09, 2006 at 04:52:14, Günther Simon wrote:

>On February 09, 2006 at 00:34:12, Tony Thomas Karippa wrote:
>
>>On February 08, 2006 at 23:16:10, Derek Paquette wrote:
>>
>>>On February 08, 2006 at 22:41:15, Jay Urbanski wrote:
>>>
>>>>[Event ""]
>>>>[Site "chessclub.com"]
>>>>[Date "2006.2.8"]
>>>>[Round ""]
>>>>[White "B-Amin"]
>>>>[Black "Blargh"]
>>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>>[Eco ""]
>>>>[Annotator ""]
>>>>[Source ""]
>>>>
>>>>1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d3 g6 4.g3 Bg7 5.Bg2 Nc6 6.O-O Nf6 7.c3 O-O
>>>>8.Re1 Bg4 9.h3 Bd7 10.Bf4 Qc8 11.Kh2 Nh5 12.Be3 b5 13.a3 a5 14.d4
>>>>Rd8 15.Nbd2 Qc7 16.dxc5 dxc5 17.Bxc5 Be6 18.Qe2 Ne5 19.Bd4 b4
>>>>20.axb4 axb4 21.Rxa8 Rxa8 22.cxb4 Rc8 23.Bc5 Qd7 24.Nxe5 Bxe5
>>>>25.Nc4 Bc7 26.Nb6 Bxb6 27.Bxb6 Nf6 28.Rd1 Qa4 29.Bc5 Qe8 30.Rc1
>>>>Nd7 31.f4 f6 32.Be3 Rxc1 33.Bxc1 Qc8 34.Be3 Bc4 35.Qd2 Kf8 36.Qc3
>>>>Qa6 37.Qa3 Qd6 38.Qc3 Qa6 39.h4 Bf1 40.Qd2 Qb5 41.Bf3 Bd3 42.Kg1
>>>>Kf7 43.Kf2 f5 44.e5 Bc4 45.Qc3 Bd5 46.Be2 Qb7 47.b5 Nf8 48.b6
>>>>Ne6 49.Qd3 h5 50.Qb5 Qa8 51.Qa6 Qc6 52.b7 Qxb7 53.Qxb7 Bxb7 54.Bc4
>>>>Bc8 55.Ke2 Ke8 56.Kd3 Nd8 57.b4 Be6 58.Bb5+ Bd7 59.Ba6 Be6 60.b5
>>>>Kd7 61.Bb6 Bb3 62.Bxd8 Kxd8 63.b6 Kd7 64.Bb5+ Kc8 65.Bc6 Bf7
>>>>66.Kd4 Kd8 67.Kc5 Kc8 68.Bd5 Be8 69.Bg8 Kb7 70.e6 Ba4 71.Bf7
>>>>Bd1 72.Bxg6 Bg4 73.Be8 Bf3 74.Bb5 Bd1 75.Bc6+ Kc8 76.Kd5 Bf3+
>>>>77.Kc5 Bd1 78.Kd4 Be2 79.Ke5 Bg4 80.Be8 Kb7 81.Bg6 Kxb6 82.Bxf5
>>>>Be2 83.Bg6 Kc5 84.f5 Bd3 85.Bxh5 Bc4 86.Bf7 Kb4 87.h5 Ba2 88.h6
>>>>Kc5 89.h7 Bd5 90.h8Q Bc6 91.Qd8 Kb5 92.Qxe7 Kc4 93.f6 Ba4 94.g4
>>>>Bc6 95.g5 Kb3 96.g6 Bb5 97.g7 Bc6 98.g8Q Bf3 99.Qd6 Be4 100.Kxe4
>>>>Kc3 101.e7 Kc2 102.e8Q Kc1 103.Be6 Kc2 104.f7 Kc1 105.f8Q Kc2
>>>>106.Qeb8 Kc1 107.Qfd8 Kc2 108.Qf7 Kc1 109.Qfb7 Kc2 110.Kf4 Kc1
>>>>111.Bg4 Kc2 112.Qd6e7 Kc1 113.Qee8 Kc2 114.Qb7c8# 1-0
>>>>
>>>>Information about B-Amin(IM) (Last disconnected Wed Feb 08 2006 14:15):
>>>>
>>>>              rating [need] win  loss  draw total   best
>>>>Bullet          2919        312  1098   207  1617   2949 (06-Jan-2006)
>>>>Blitz           3190        746  1589   218  2553   3285 (30-Sep-2005)
>>>>Standard        2670         74    98    39   211   2671 (19-Jan-2006)
>>>>5-minute        2442        218   139    42   399   2514 (03-May-2005)
>>>>1-minute        2290        729   572    67  1368   2433 (17-Nov-2005)
>>>>
>>>> 1: IM Bassem Amin Matta   17 years old
>>>> 2: fide rating 2452 (1-2006)
>>>> 3: Arab champion for men sep 2005 (  first GM norm), Arab champion U 20
>>>>November2005 (2ndGm norm)
>>>> 4:  African Champion U20 2004 , African Champion U20 December 2005 (3rd GM
>>>>norm)
>>>> 5: Arab champion U10,12and U14 two times
>>>> 6: Fourth place in world championship in greece 2004 U16
>>>> 7: Studying in the faculty of medicine first year
>>>> 8: I am ready to play any where in the world
>>>> 9: my e-mail  abbasof@yahoo.com
>>>>
>>>> Name   : Bassem Amin
>>>> Groups : Egypt IMs
>>>
>>>i was under the impression that those types of blitz ratings were impossible on
>>>icc for a human, could he be cheating?
>>I dont see the point for him to be cheating. If he was he wouldnt have been an
>>IM, its kind of impossible to cheat during a tournament.
>
>I don't say he did, but of course cheating is possible at ICC and every
>other chess server. Sometimes cheaters are caught, sometimes not.
>It simply happens permanently, but this is no secret.
>Also the already given OTB strength is completely irrelevant for cheating.
>May be all forgot e.g. how A. Naiditsch(GM meanwhile) even cheated in an
>official online tournament(and was caught).
>
>
>Guenther
How did he get caught?? I would like to know.



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